Squids in the US?

[Squiggles]

In very few words: In the US, the State does not pick up the pieces via ACC...

You're on your own if you turn yourself into man-mush and survive.

Choice is all good - but it has consequences.

Look at the amount motorcyclists pay in ACC premiums as part of vehicle licensing.

That has got to be one of the shortest posts you've ever made on such a (potentially) contentious topic.

[macros87]

That has got to be one of the shortest posts you've ever made on such a (potentially) contentious topic.

i second that! phurball always have a relatively large strong sound argument to share with all of us, which is why i dont mess with you... and i usually agree like now.. it is just very stupid in this country to not have comprehensive health insurance as opposed to nz where acc covers all accidents.. so i guess if they have covered themselves in that way... them maybe they are not completely irresponsible... regardless of helmet less gloveless jacket-less shenanigans

[motorbyclist]

Believe it or not you don't have to crash and you can ride accordingly to minimize your chances considerably. Most noobi's on here are of the opinion that you "have" to crash when learning and that you will crash yearly after that. It's not true guys and gals......

considering that about 90 minutes ago, riding home in auckland's rush hour, I had a sum total of FOUR near misses from people doing stupid things, in only a 20km trip, I'd say the chances of having an off aren't that bad. BUT, having avoided rush hour for the last few months, i can say that travelling at different times of day greatly improves your odds. Usually I'll have no trouble at all for over a week,

yes they were "only" near misses, but over there they have driver training to help avoid things like sharing a lane with a motorcycle. and they get sued. and they are required to have insurance.

America still believes in freedom of choice I believe. .

we DO have the freedom to choose - the only legal requirement is a certified helmet. It just so happens most NZ bikers wear gloves and jacket with that. Oddly, the scooter riders (and newbie bikers) out there don't do the same thing. good for them - but perhaps they would wear more than miniskirt and boobtube if they fully understood the risks.

In very few words: In the US, the State does not pick up the pieces via ACC...

You're on your own if you turn yourself into man-mush and survive.

Choice is all good - but it has consequences.

Look at the amount motorcyclists pay in ACC premiums as part of vehicle licensing.

saved writing me a large post

[motorbyclist]

so, guess what i saw the other day? I suspect this is the same firestorm that was abandoned on symonds, and/or the same asian rider i talked to with about as much of a clue as a licence, as i pointed out his rear tyre was completely flat and about to de-bead. (and no he didn't realise)


I can also confirm that on this fancy soup bowl was not ONE recognisable safety cert, nor anything in english.


Yes, kids, OUR acc levies are going to pay for HIS idiocy. (actually they might not if he's an international student, but the stats will still count against us)

EDIT: good to see he's god crash knobs on the bike though! suppose wounds heal and bikes cost money?

[Dare]

Anthrax, your quite mistaken.

I know that eventually, I will crash. No matter the precautions, the simple statistics show that if I obey EVERY rule, drive carefully, avoid crazy drivers, at some point I will still crash.

Heh.
Hehe.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...Sorry

[ital916]

Much the same in Oz.....shorts, t-shirts, jandels, I saw crocs the other day! But the one thing that gets me is no gloves.....screw that! They are the first thing you put down, how you gonna wipe your ass??

If you ever fall off and lose your hands..Ill wipe your ass for you.




I am a bad, bad man....bad drider.

considering that about 90 minutes ago, riding home in auckland's rush hour, I had a sum total of FOUR near misses from people doing stupid things, in only a 20km trip, I'd say the chances of having an off aren't that bad. BUT, having avoided rush hour for the last few months, i can say that travelling at different times of day greatly improves your odds. Usually I'll have no trouble at all for over a week,

yes they were "only" near misses, but over there they have driver training to help avoid things like sharing a lane with a motorcycle. and they get sued. and they are required to have insurance.



we DO have the freedom to choose - the only legal requirement is a certified helmet. It just so happens most NZ bikers wear gloves and jacket with that. Oddly, the scooter riders (and newbie bikers) out there don't do the same thing. good for them - but perhaps they would wear more than miniskirt and boobtube if they fully understood the risks.




saved writing me a large post

Once you accept near misses occur and put them out of mind when they do occur life becomes happier.

Dont worry, be happy....you all know the words!

so, guess what i saw the other day? I suspect this is the same firestorm that was abandoned on symonds, and/or the same asian rider i talked to with about as much of a clue as a licence, as i pointed out his rear tyre was completely flat and about to de-bead. (and no he didn't realise)


I can also confirm that on this fancy soup bowl was not ONE recognisable safety cert, nor anything in english.


Yes, kids, OUR acc levies are going to pay for HIS idiocy. (actually they might not if he's an international student, but the stats will still count against us)

EDIT: good to see he's god crash knobs on the bike though! suppose wounds heal and bikes cost money?

Meh....lets all take a big breath and say it together...MEH. He wants to ride with a shorty on...his choice. Im over trying to battle for lower acc levies...I just pay them.

[motorbyclist]

Over 300 bucks for a 12 month rego now..... soon we wont even be able to afford gear!

[ital916]

In very few words: In the US, the State does not pick up the pieces via ACC...

You're on your own if you turn yourself into man-mush and survive.

Choice is all good - but it has consequences.

Look at the amount motorcyclists pay in ACC premiums as part of vehicle licensing.

Well you cant spell america without freedom can ya .

Good on them yankies, do whatever the hell they like.

I quite like the ACC system though. Has gotten me patched up when the shit has hit the fan. What I dont like is the price if said premiums, there has got to be a better way of calcualting it...as legal advisor please explain to us lay folk the reasoning behind such high levies for m/c. What bullshit statistics do they use to justify them?

Over 300 bucks for a 12 month rego now..... soon we wont even be able to afford gear!

Tell me about it...my rego, wof and insurance bills just came in. I almost had a stroke.

[Real_Wolf]

crap, i gotta buy rego soon, 300 bucks is a rip off

[ital916]

Haha thanks for multiquoting my posts whoever you are mysterious kiwibiker avenger.....defeating posting errors in secret.