'He killed girlfriend due to emotional pain', court told

[scumdog]

Can you imagine it?

"Hang on, I'm only up to 186".

"And I've got a stitch, not as fit as I thought, better stop for a breather"

What a nong, out of the gene pool for him, toot sweet.

[Genestho]

There is an argument both ways, one suggesting that an ordinary person would regain self control in the time it takes to stab someone 200 times.

The other is that stabing someone 200 times is evidence that the person actually lost control.

Hmmmmm, I see what you're saying.
Bloody hard to imagine that the screams from Mother and Daughter and covering himself, and the room with blood, the image of the girl looking like chopped up steak, couldn't have snapped him out of it, but I do see your point!

Sorry edit: He brought the knife with him, as said earlier that would indicate premedititation and; Would the slicing indicate a bit of thought, or has he "gone animal"? Guess we'll find out.

[boostin]

Hmmmmm, I see what you're saying.
Bloody hard to imagine that the screams from Mother and Daughter and covering himself, and the room with blood, the image of the girl looking like chopped up steak, couldn't have snapped him out of it, but I do see your point!

Sorry edit: He brought the knife with him, as said earlier that would indicate premedititation and; Would the slicing indicate a bit of thought, or has he "gone animal"? Guess we'll find out.

Hard to make a decision without more information. From what I know so far (not much at all) I don't think he should have a defence of provocation.

Some of the posts by guys in this thread show that they have not lost self control when put is apparently similar situation.

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Ya see mate I just don't know. --I literally say "there but for the grace of god" Because If I had zigged instead of zagged--gone back to "have it out" I honestly can't say what I would have done.
I'm pretty sure that instead of minor easilly repaired slices in my leathers if she was standing between me and the door she would have gone through the door in front of me.
The silly thing is it isn't big stuff usually because big stuff sets off loud enough warning bells that you get the heck out of there. Its the whole one straw at a time thing.
It was I must say 25 years ago .

NO way am I ever saying that hurting another human being is a good thing just that I can relate (I think).

Hahahahahahaha

This from the man who a fortnight ago started a thread lamenting a lack of personal responsibility in the younger generation

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...responsibility

[short-circuit]

Manslaughter rather than murder. This has got to be the ultimate in denial of self responsibility.

Ya see Frosty - that's what I was thinking

[FROSTY:Me]

Ya see Frosty - that's what I was thinking

Nope just that everyone has a breaking point. I found mine that day.

[YellowDog]

An interesting one JD.

Every human being can be driven in to a state of violence.

Some of us need more goading and driving than others.

It wasn't exactly a 'whoopsie' I seem to have accidentally stabbed you in a sudden fit of range whilst the red most was still clearing. This guy lost it big time and mutilated the victim.

This guy seems to be taking himself seriously, but I really don't think he has a case at all.

[oldguy]

What the F**K is wrong with the NZ male, women getting murdered, also that kiwi guy in the US and his wife, what a waste and so very pretty too.

[Katman]

and so very pretty too.

Um, I'd have left that bit out.

I don't think there'd be any more of an excuse just 'cos they're fugly.

(But I'm sure that's not what you meant).

[Mikkel]

What the hell could the girl say to him to make him stab her more than 200 times?

It would most likely have less to do with what is being said and more to do with failing to shut up when told to.

Stabbed over 200 times.

Is there that much space on a human body?

As they say, it's not the size - it's how you use it that matters.

That said, I can't see how it wouldn't start getting repetitive after a while. Maybe he never read about Pat Bateman - if he had he should have been more creative...

I don't think there'd be any more of an excuse just 'cos they're fugly.

It's statistically proven that men generally will put up with more shit from a stunning looking woman than a fugly minger. So actually, yes it is more of an excuse...


All the disrespectful piss-taking aside - this is a truly horrendous occurrance. Sick puppy indeed. No amount of emotional pain will ever justify any violent response. I doubt the trial will take long - and I have a feeling they aren't going to announce a parole date too.

[CookMySock]

It shouldn't take more than 180 stabs to regain control of your emotions in a situation like this. Guilty.

The "stab" is not a useful technique for regaining control of ones' emotional state anyway.

Steve

[discotex]

Psychopath.

If he'd killed her and ran once he snapped back to reality you could almost buy the story.

The fact that he stayed there cool as ice suggests he thought he was in the right.

I'd say it's highly likely he'll kill again.

[fire eyes]

Makes for interesting reading ..

[alanzs]

Murder is murder. Oldest play in the lawyers book; blame it all on the DEAD victim. "She had it coming..."

Fuck him, too bad the death penalty isn't applicable here.

[Genestho]

Murder is murder. Oldest play in the lawyers book; blame it all on the DEAD victim. "She had it coming..."

Fuck him, too bad the death penalty isn't applicable here.

Didn't they try that on with Colleen Burroughs, the young girl who was run over a few times, by some MM members after propostioning her for sex, and she refused.

Her character was torn to pieces. Never mind that her body was already. Terrible.