Street Stock 250cc 4-stroke twins

[mossy1200]

and for the record it is a test run for the bike and me but heres the bit you wont understand. I LIKE JUMPING IN THE DEEP END(its were im best and were i show the men how its done)..dont judge people you dont know!
so your welcome to come to the test run and watch me fail or hit the 1:20-1:18 mark round the track or you can quit running your mouth on a thread that is for people that want to do something no one is realy bothered with.

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look im not starting shit with anyone. unlike some people...



and 10 laps is more then enough to get in the groove, if you cant get it right after 10 laps then ill be happy to lap your arse.... you earned it lol
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I'm not saying he's not making unjustified claims, as far as i know, he simply voices his opinion as a matter of fact until proven wrong. So he stated 'getting your knee down is over rated' as a matter of fact when actually it's simply an opinion. It doesn't come off very well, and i'm not surprised by the reactions on either party.

We were just expecting some 1.20s and some serious lean angles with knees down etc

[gatch]

Ask any man and ill guarentee they will agree.

fixed for you..

[DELLORTO]

Of course he found it felt wrong trying what the mentors were telling him. If your used to doing it wrong then it is easier to keep doing it wrong. A good biker that is willing to learn will praactise what the mentors teach until it feels natural.

All the mentors do is teach the basics, and in any sport, getting the basics right all the time is what counts. Once you have the basics down, then you can put your unique touch on it. Ask any professional sportsman and ill guarentee they will agree.

your right.....i had to listen to a few people when i was learning.....and i still listen today to other more expirienced riders.....

if you add your own touch after you've learnt the basic's you just keep geting better and better....

[NSR-Dan]

fixed for you..

I Lol'd


For the record i crashed yesterday, entirely my fault. yes it was a gravel patch but it was my fault for not leaving an area for error, and not riding to the conditions. however, I GOT MY KNEE DOWN.

[kunoichi]

i'm not trying to get sway or anything, i'm simply saying, well i understand what he's thinking (most of the time anyways) and putting it in a different way in hopes that perhaps maybe u guys will see it in a less aggressive manner. Yes i'm a noob commuter, same as chaos, and that puts me in a position where i can relate to what he is thinking. i would of thought the same thing if i were on the track, and after NSR-Dan's comment, i see the validity of your point (which i had not considered, and that is the whole point of these forums, to come across view points you have not considered) and now i would consider that next time on the track.

I'm just trying to make a less heated discussion with more profit and advice coming out of it than name calling and slandering. That's all. So next time i'm reitterating what chaos just said, it's simply to place more understanding in the thread so more valid discussions can occur.

[kunoichi]

I Lol'd


For the record i crashed yesterday, entirely my fault. yes it was a gravel patch but it was my fault for not leaving an area for error, and not riding to the conditions. however, I GOT MY KNEE DOWN.

Too bad about the crash btw. LOL, atleast its a new spin on getting your knee down.

BTW i dont' know how useless or useful a knee down position is, but i managed to get my knee down on the coro loop last year, going up a twisty hill (i always find i can handle my bike a heck of alot better going uphill rather than down), i was tucked in behind a busa i think, and just stuck to him, followed his lines and i had my knee down before i even knew what happened! (evidence on my cordural pants, slight fraying, i pulled up my bike from the shock i got). In my opinion, if knee down is natural in that particular turn at that particular speed, then it's not a hinderence. However, if you are purposefully throwing your bike around trying to get your knee down, i could see how that might not be the fastest way around the track.

[McWild]

I want to have your babies Chaos.

[NSR-Dan]

Most of the name calling and slandering of chaos is the result of the out streched hand of help myself and many others have offered to chaos, to only be shot down in flames, as he truely believes he is gods gift to this world and above everyone with many more years of wisdom and riding experience.

[mossy1200]

i'm not trying to get sway or anything, i'm simply saying, well i understand what he's thinking (most of the time anyways) and putting it in a different way in hopes that perhaps maybe u guys will see it in a less aggressive manner. Yes i'm a noob commuter, same as chaos, and that puts me in a position where i can relate to what he is thinking. i would of thought the same thing if i were on the track, and after NSR-Dan's comment, i see the validity of your point (which i had not considered, and that is the whole point of these forums, to come across view points you have not considered) and now i would consider that next time on the track.

I'm just trying to make a less heated discussion with more profit and advice coming out of it than name calling and slandering. That's all. So next time i'm reitterating what chaos just said, it's simply to place more understanding in the thread so more valid discussions can occur.

Dont get us wrong we dont mind Chaos and this thread is a whopper but advice taking is not his strong point.I sucked up advice like a sponge when I started and the guys at the track are more than willing to offer it.Chaos has a reinvent the wheel(flywheel)approach.

[RDjase]

i'm not trying to get sway or anything, i'm simply saying, well i understand what he's thinking (most of the time anyways) and putting it in a different way in hopes that perhaps maybe u guys will see it in a less aggressive manner. Yes i'm a noob commuter, same as chaos, and that puts me in a position where i can relate to what he is thinking. i would of thought the same thing if i were on the track, and after NSR-Dan's comment, i see the validity of your point (which i had not considered, and that is the whole point of these forums, to come across view points you have not considered) and now i would consider that next time on the track.

I'm just trying to make a less heated discussion with more profit and advice coming out of it than name calling and slandering. That's all. So next time i'm reitterating what chaos just said, it's simply to place more understanding in the thread so more valid discussions can occur.

Thats good you got to the track chaos. get some real tyres and do a track day at Taupo , heaps of corners , will suit your bike better. Enter clubmans or 250ss at Rd1 Paccific club meeting , Nov 1st , track 2 (new taupo) Google it for track maps,
www.pacclub.co.nz for entry forms and details

Why dont both of you enter on Nov 1st, it will a great meeting on a fun track

[kunoichi]

LOL, yes i realize he's created quiet a stir, and isnt' doing the typical noob soaking sponge-like state that most of us warp into when doing something new.

But Chaos has been around bikes for a long time and doesn't consider himself a noob, except a track day noob (him and his dad tinker and rebuild bikes and engines all the time, so i'm not surprised that he doesn't consider himself a noob). Anyways, i'm not saying he's right to burn down ur advice etc, but the boy has some assumptions in his head that he refuses to give up until proven wrong either through practice or other evidence other than 'kuz that's the way it's always been done'. Lets put it this way, he'll question anything and everything, and you must admit that this is a trait of a revolutionary thinker. I'm not condoning the way he goes about it (infact i try to make his responses less aggressive whenever i can), but it's his way.

[kunoichi]

Why dont both of you enter on Nov 1st, it will a great meeting on a fun track

that's the puke track day is it? Well i plan to be there at the very least, and might give a go around the track, but i'd consider myself a timid rider, so don't really know if it's worth forking out the cash for it.

[NSR-Dan]

that's the puke track day is it? Well i plan to be there at the very least, and might give a go around the track, but i'd consider myself a timid rider, so don't really know if it's worth forking out the cash for it.

Taupo Track day, track 2

[kunoichi]

I suppose i could arrange to drop by my parents for the night, but then it all comes down to cash...and i think uni exams starts around then! Not planing to go on the puke one?

[RDjase]

that's the puke track day is it? Well i plan to be there at the very least, and might give a go around the track, but i'd consider myself a timid rider, so don't really know if it's worth forking out the cash for it.

It was AMCC round 1 but it changed date because of the race date clash PMCC/AMCC as some riders are doing both series. Taupo would suit your bikes well, less of a horsepower track,
A timid rider ...... NOT , you got your knee down , COOL Get down to taupo and have a thrash around in 250 street stock.

Kunoichi Vs Chaos

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It will have more intrest than the Camaron Vs Tau fight