Street Stock 250cc 4-stroke twins

[mossy1200]

You promised it would only take 10 laps

"and 10 laps is more then enough to get in the groove, if you cant get it right after 10 laps then ill be happy to lap your arse.... you earned it lol"

[RDjase]

I bet everyone is tired this morning

A very Busy night on The Chaos Thread

[Mully]

I simply enjoy watching you make an arse out of yourself in a public forum.

True. Hence my call that he's Ashton Kutcher, punking everybody.

opinion you value is your own. So good luck finding race coaches or mechanics or support crews in future, I think you're going to need it.

Now, you know that's not true. His Dad is a fountain of useful knowledge.

My personal favourites from Chaos Senior is:
"Bikes don't have flywheels" and
"No, Chaos. You didn't fuck up that corner. There was nothing you could have done. It's the council's fault and they'll have to pay" (I'm still laughing about that one - I've saved the pic he drew his "lines" on to my PC to look at to cheer me up. What's even better is I've showed it to someone who doesn't even ride and he picked that Chaos's line was up the shit. Oh how I laughed at that. Now, what was I saying before I opened these brackets? Oh right. Anything else? No, I think I'm done. As you were)

[Brett]

i rest my case if you still want to argue i sugest you open a new thread

You cant compare using that video, riding at slow speed and riding at higher speeds puts different forces on a bike..when going that slow, the rider turns left to go left and right to go right, try turning like that at say 100kmh or 200kmh and you will find that pushing the bars left send you right and vice versa.

[R6_kid:Me]

ok now i just love that.

yes i understand the gyroscopic principals and rotational inertia that the wheel has on the angle of the bike. but i would love to see you counter steer when your IN the corner. see what happens, ill bring popcorn

its things like this that make me laugh. yes you counter steer but the purpose is to anle the bike or to aid in leaning once your down you need to turn back in. and i never said i could take my hands of the bars.

and i assumed no one on here was dumb enough to think they were still counter steering IN a corner, but i apolagize i was very wrong

So when you are in a corner, you have no weight on the bars?

Unless you are through the corner and riding in a straight line you will have more pressure on one of the bars - this is countersteering.

By the way, you are right about where the wheel is pointing in the turn - once you have countersteered the bike over into the lean the wheel will turn into the direction in which the bike is travelling, however you are now countersteering by putting weight on the outside bar to stop the bike from turning in too much (and lowsiding). "As the desired angle is approached, the front wheel must then be steered into the turn to maintain that angle or the bike will continue to lean with gravity, increasing in rate, until the side contacts the ground." - you are now countersteering out of the corner to stop the bike from falling over, and thus holding your line. Part of what I said in my last post was incorrect, but the overall idea was right.

Oh, and chill out. People might not hate on you so much if you argued their points with substantiated evidence rather than insulting them for being 'stupid' for not agreeing with you. Be the bigger man.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Be the bigger man.

Gotta be 'A' man before you can be the bigger man!

[McWild]

True. Hence my call that he's Ashton Kutcher, punking everybody.

Or just successful troll.

[ajturbo]

come on guys... he is just having you all on... giving you a real good wind up.....
bet he laughs all day after he reads all your comments... like i do

[NSR-Dan]

if this is a troll, ii should deserve media attention for being the biggest troll ever. might qualify for some record.

[Harvd]

hmmm smells trolly does it?

[chaos rider]

So when you are in a corner, you have no weight on the bars?

Unless you are through the corner and riding in a straight line you will have more pressure on one of the bars - this is countersteering.

By the way, you are right about where the wheel is pointing in the turn - once you have countersteered the bike over into the lean the wheel will turn into the direction in which the bike is travelling, however you are now countersteering by putting weight on the outside bar to stop the bike from turning in too much (and lowsiding). "As the desired angle is approached, the front wheel must then be steered into the turn to maintain that angle or the bike will continue to lean with gravity, increasing in rate, until the side contacts the ground." - you are now countersteering out of the corner to stop the bike from falling over, and thus holding your line. Part of what I said in my last post was incorrect, but the overall idea was right.

Oh, and chill out. People might not hate on you so much if you argued their points with substantiated evidence rather than insulting them for being 'stupid' for not agreeing with you. Be the bigger man.

well thats what im talking about. not what the rider is doing but what the bike does.

it really gets annyoing when i cant explaine what i meen. now i dont actualy countersteer (push the bars) i let the bike take the line and i just rearwheel steer (use acceleration/ speed to ballence the bike its a difrent way of turning that lets you go fast around a corner without the need of getting as far down hence my huge chicken strips

oh ill take some pics of the marbles on my tyres as small bit of prof about me drifting over ford mountain its not much but its definitly from lighting up sideways no other way making them

[R6_kid:Me]

oh ill take some pics of the marbles on my tyres as small bit of prof about me drifting over ford mountain its not much but its definitly from lighting up sideways no other way making them

Shit suspension will do that too. The tyres on my bucket were all balled up, from all of about 12hp, and really shit suspension.

[Pumba]

note
i have never said anything that i havent already learnt from people with experience

i did listen to the mentors and i did as they said but it felt wrong (not saying they are wrong)

Thank you for answering my question, I appear to have mis-interpreted your orginal post, thanks again for clarifying.

[ducatilover]

I want to have your babies Chaos.

I'm keen for a three way

ok now i just love that.

yes i understand the gyroscopic principals and rotational inertia that the wheel has on the angle of the bike. but i would love to see you counter steer when your IN the corner. see what happens, ill bring popcorn

its things like this that make me laugh. yes you counter steer but the purpose is to anle the bike or to aid in leaning once your down you need to turn back in. and i never said i could take my hands of the bars.

and i assumed no one on here was dumb enough to think they were still counter steering IN a corner, but i apolagize i was very wrong

Jesus mate, I was wrong and always have been. I really had the strange idea that countersteer in mid corner helped bring the bike down and in tighter? But using your noggin and not wrenching the bars....Yet again, I have been informed I know fuck all. I better quit the racing team and give up my hobbies, leave my job as my boss is an experienced chap and is telling me porkies. This sucks, I need a sandwich

note
i have never said anything that i havent already learnt from people with experience



if you read all of that i thank you for your time because it was alot and im sorry

Ever seen Rossi drop his foot of the inside peg? It's cool.

ok time to clear shit up some more

counter steering.. to turn the handle in the opisite direction you to go

left turn..
turn right to tip the bike to the left (keep the bars turned right and youll keep leang oh shit thers the track you just lowsided you fail!)

once youve got the bike at the correct angle for the turn and speed you turn in (turn left)

depending on speed thease movements are only 5 to 10 degres, its not much

Yup

[ducatilover]

Bloody good to see photo's of you out there Chaos, keep up the work and bring us some full on big angle pics and work on your riding. Have fun and be safe [condoms and no eating poo]