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[ducatilover]

My favourite is the people who slide over and pop a knee out on a corner that I could easily take at the same speed side-saddle! Gives me a good laugh every time.

That may be the case, I have no doubts about other people going faster than me whilst I have a cheek off the seat and the knee propped out. BUT, I am most comfortable and ride smoother like this, I find [it may just be me] when hanging off a bit I can use my outer knee against the tank to take the majority of my weight, leaving my arms happier to countersteer, brake etc, and also less input to the bars mid corner to help the suspension do it's job without me being ham fisted and unsettling it and going all slappy. I also like to sit about halfway back on the seat through a corner, any furter back and my bike doesn't drop in too good and feels vague, further foward and I find myself relying on my arms to hold me, thus, slappy/sloppy cornering. It may just be me, but I am most comfortable like that and I feel the bike "likes" that [is that odd?]

As MSTRS said, relax. Try too hard and you may be putting too much weight on the front, or, not going as smooth = dangerous and most likely slower. I like a good smooth ride at a pace I am comfortable at and KNOW I am safely in the limits of the bike and myself. The latter has a relatively low limit.

My rant over

[CookMySock]

[...] a cheek off the seat and the knee propped out. BUT, I am most comfortable and ride smoother like this..

and its fun, and it's the best position to corner the bike harrd from - in the unlikely event you were forced to. The only complication with it, is it reverses the initial force on the bars which complicates the manoevre, but if you are past that, then all good!

I also like to sit about halfway back on the seat through a corner, any furter back and my bike doesn't drop in too good and feels vague, further foward and I find myself relying on my arms to hold me, thus, slappy/sloppy cornering. It may just be me, but I am most comfortable like that and I feel the bike "likes" that [is that odd?]

My bike likes weight further back. If I slide my ass right back it gives me the "on rails" feel mid-corner. Quite likely this varies per-bike.

A thing I recently learned was, holding the bars with a firm grip makes the bike really tippy at larger levels of lean. I think what is happening, is I bar-push to tip in further but hold a displacement against the bars rather than a force, not allowing the bars to turn inward when the bike leans further. The result is, when I tip in deep with a big countersteer push, the bars must be allowed to turn in after the bar-push or else the bike unexpectedly dives WAYYY the hell in deeper than I wanted, resulting in a very very strong reaction to stand the bike up.

The solution was to take my weight off the bars and steer with my fingers and wrists, not my forearms and palms.

Steve

[ducatilover]

A thing I recently learned was, holding the bars with a firm grip makes the bike really tippy at larger levels of lean. I think what is happening, is I bar-push to tip in further but hold a displacement against the bars rather than a force, not allowing the bars to turn inward when the bike leans further. The result is, when I tip in deep with a big countersteer push, the bars must be allowed to turn in after the bar-push or else the bike unexpectedly dives WAYYY the hell in deeper than I wanted, resulting in a very very strong reaction to stand the bike up.

The solution was to take my weight off the bars and steer with my fingers and wrists, not my forearms and palms.

Steve

I find my bike is very sensitive to where I sit. Too far back, no! Too far forwards = crash I think. I may try the countersteer with the fingers, I use very slight pressure through the palms. "holding" the bars will only further complicate matters [in my mind] not letting the suspension or forks move as they want and upsetting the balance.