A new class EXCITING class to get bikes out there AGAIN!

[eelracing]

I proposed a similar concept to MNZ via E-mail but along the lines of a jnr/snr class in F3 like post classics.
ie;up to 450cc jnr, 451cc and above snr.
Eventually got a response...lukewarm at best,said they would put it to the commitee.Still waiting (bit like my voting pack)but not holding my breath.

But i like your idea and would support it.

[SARGE]

I'd like to see a MotoGP (GRAND PILLION) bikes like the FJR1300, Blackbird, Hyabusa, ZX14 etc.. 2 up, full weekend kit for you and the Mrs and bluetooth helmets ...



special classes for the Gold Wings and Harley dressers

(and the knob class for those trying to do it on 50cc's)

[CHOPPA]

Before i even thought about racing road bikes the only class i was interested in watching was the class with the new fast bikes, making more and more classes for old shit boxes isnt good for racing.

To buy an old bike and set it up to race will be way more expensive then going and buying a s/h race bike. At the moment theres 3 600s on trade me that could win at club level and be top 10 in the nats for around 10k.

Club F1 and F2 are strong so it might as well stay that way.

[neil_cb125t]

Hmm interesting - so 400 4s would still be competing against 444 4s?

Its hard - i have my "little 4" working pretty well - i can get infront of some SVs but not all of them. and mines pretty ah... not standard.

just a shame that the idea of F3 is now just sv or custom built bikes, tigcrafts etc.

I also know of plenty of guys who buys an older 600 like 02-03 to go into 600ss get no where, spend a whole lot of money. the bikes are just out classed.

getting a 99 r6 or CBR for 6-8k and you would be really competitive, or you could get a ZXR750 for 3-4 and spend money on it. It just gives you room you stay on the machine for a fews years

I proposed a similar concept to MNZ via E-mail but along the lines of a jnr/snr class in F3 like post classics.
ie;up to 450cc jnr, 451cc and above snr.
Eventually got a response...lukewarm at best,said they would put it to the commitee.Still waiting (bit like my voting pack)but not holding my breath.

But i like your idea and would support it.

[(P)]

Before i even thought about racing road bikes the only class i was interested in watching was the class with the new fast bikes, making more and more classes for old shit boxes isnt good for racing.

To buy an old bike and set it up to race will be way more expensive then going and buying a s/h race bike.

there are also alot of ex race bikes sitting in garages that would fit strait into something like this class.
Choppa,what is good for racing is having a class that your "shitbox" can be raced in (in the future).

[neil_cb125t]

So what happens to your bike in 3 years......?? do you buy another bike every 2nd year?? cause if you buy a 2nd hand 600 in 2 years it will be a Shit box compared to whats out now.

"making more and more classes for old shit boxes isnt good for racing"

Watch what you say there - no one makes movies about a 600ss bike - but a 50 year old indian seemed to impress people??

This class would be to get people into racing either for the first time or back into it again. A class like F3 is good because you stay on one bike to learn the bad part of F3 is now you need an expensive bike to go anywhere.

Then they can step up to F1-F2. This is a stepping stone class. Or one that you stay on one bike and develope.

"To buy an old bike and set it up to race will be way more expensive then going and buying a s/h race bike. At the moment theres 3 600s on trade me that could win at club level and be top 10 in the nats for around 10k."

exibit A and B

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-226982025.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-226053284.htm

[neil_cb125t]

there are also alot of ex race bikes sitting in garages that would fit strait into something like this class.
Choppa,what is good for racing is having a class that your "shitbox" can be raced in (in the future).

yep yep keep that man on!!

[DEATH_INC.]

Before i even thought about racing road bikes the only class i was interested in watching was the class with the new fast bikes, making more and more classes for old shit boxes isnt good for racing.

To buy an old bike and set it up to race will be way more expensive then going and buying a s/h race bike. At the moment theres 3 600s on trade me that could win at club level and be top 10 in the nats for around 10k.

Club F1 and F2 are strong so it might as well stay that way.

That may be the case fella, but not everyone can afford a race only bike. the beauty of these classes is you could take an old shitta like my old gixxer, slap some race fairings on it and have some fun without being slaughtered by the bloody thous. IF it's set up properly, so we wouldn't have to spend $60000 like some of the post classic guys do....
I'd also stretch it to at least 900cc to let the old blades in, they were no faster than the 7fiddys...

[Deano]

This class would be to get people into racing either for the first time or back into it again.

Like Streetstock or Clubman's ?

[Str8 Jacket]

Like Streetstock

Yeah but that's slow and boring!!....

[(P)]

That may be the case fella, but not everyone can afford a race only bike. the beauty of these classes is you could take an old shitta like my old gixxer, slap some race fairings on it and have some fun without being slaughtered by the bloody thous. IF it's set up properly, so we wouldn't have to spend $60000 like some of the post classic guys do....
I'd also stretch it to at least 900cc to let the old blades in, they were no faster than the 7fiddys...

what he said!:

I'd race my rf900

[Deano]

F1 and F2 are dead - and sports production is becoming more and more of the way the future is heading. The problem with that is that new machines are required on a yearly basis.$$...

Somebody better tell them all so they can go get themselves an F3 bike.

[neil_cb125t]

Yep, the problem is street stock is falling away - dont get me wrong i LOVED that class. But bottom line those bikes arent being maid any more - i bought my 150 for $900 now you'll pay over $1500for one!!

Clubby's i just dont agree with - its not a chamionship so why do we run it. you have brackets for times to fall into so a good guy on a 400 would be ainst a sh*t guy on a R1.

This class would mean clubbys is not needed - becuase if your learning to race you buy a $3000 2 smoker or 400 and thats what you end up racing against - sole destroying 450's wouldnt be there. Or buy a R6 and stay on it for 3 years then move on.>>

Like Streetstock or Clubman's ?

[CHOPPA]

Theres classes where you can ride all the bikes you talking about no need to add more classes, it sounds like you guys just want a class where you can get a trophy. If thats the case race clubmen...

If you go making all these new classes when do you think you will actually have time in the program to put them?

If these classes were actually added they would be run combined with say superbikes due to time constraints and you would just get pointed seperatly. The only difference being you can say i got 1st instead of 10th

[Kickaha]

Clubby's i just dont agree with - its not a chamionship so why do we run it. you have brackets for times to fall into so a good guy on a 400 would be ainst a sh*t guy on a R1.

You run it as a "Run what you brung" class so people can try racing and see if they like it without having to buy a particular bike to enter a particular class, getting rid of it would be a backwards step