Obviously we will all speak a chinese dialect and eat with chop sticksOriginally Posted by wbks
Mallicious Little Gnome
Obviously we will all speak a chinese dialect and eat with chop sticks
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
Forum whore
They're not trying. They don't need to and in the short term is doesn't affect NZ at all. 200 years ago the US had next to no global influence. 200 years ago the Chinese didn't want any global influence.
Things change.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
e mare libertas
Don't equate the US and China.
Interesting and somewhat relevant article here. [Edit: You might need to click the link once to activate access to the site and then again to read the article itself.]
China is not, and has never been, easy to project global power from.
The USA, as an entity, was in its infancy 200 years ago and its global superpower status as of the latter half of the twentieth century is an inevitable result of the advantages it was born with.
China has been in more or less the same sociopolitinomic (heh) condition for five thousand years, and the fundamental drivers for that will never change.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
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I wasn't comparing them at all.
I was pointing out that things change. The US can no longer be regarded as a credible world power in my book.
China's socio-political drivers have changed since 1947, largely because their population as grown by a factor of 6 since the Boxer rebellion. Population pressures are pushing the upper strata of Chinese society out around the Pacific ring and these people are making new countries their home and naturally increasing the ties these countries have to China. China has no interest in force projection, and haven't since the Eunuch Admiral mapped the planet.
The ratio of Chinese to other Ethnic populations will skyrocket over the next century around the Pacific rim, and there will little or no malicious intent in it.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Mallicious Little Gnome
The growth of the USA as a world supoer power started 111 years ago with the US invasion of Cuba and the war with Spain. This was in 1998, the same year they annexed Hawaii. As a result of the US Spanish war the countries of Cuba, the Phillipines and Guam were given over to the USA. This was the start of the USA's expansion as a world power.
As an extension to this rise in world dominance they very wisely arrived late to two world wars thereby being able to claim that without them both would have been lost. After WW1 they made further inroads with the aquisition of Western Samoa from the Germans.
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
Easily wound up!!
Doubtlessly my opinion is coloured by the fact tat I fully exepct to lose my job to India before I retire but... FWIW that country can give up its space program and its nuclear weapons before I will willingly give money to relieve their poverty!
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e mare libertas
Immigrant Chinese populations increase their new home countries' ties to China?
I'm dubious.
China's a shithole and always has been. Emigrants, as far as I can tell, just want to get the hell out of it and live somewhere nicer. They're not moving due to 'population pressure'.
I don't really see that as a process likely to result in 'increasing ties'.
And if not projected military power, can you quantify what you mean by China's 'influence'?
All sounds a bit airy-fairy to me. If a country's economy is permanently tottering and it can't project any military power, it's a nonentity as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Forum whore
That's cool, you're entitled to your opinion.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
e mare libertas
Refusal to engage is so irritating.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
could catch a monkey
Hmm, Jrandom's kryptonite has been discovered.......
e mare libertas
Jim2's known about it for years.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
could catch a monkey
Well, he should have shared it around.
Although, that probably wouldn't stop the Jrandom Fan Club (tm) engaging you anyway.
Meeeeeeeeeh
Do you realise how much investment Kiwis have made into these small Island Countries (Fiji Tonga and Samoa) - Tourism is just one area.
Forum whore
Ok I said that wrong. I mean, say China gets more influence in the Islands. So how does that take over NZ?
Mallicious Little Gnome
Yep
In the 50's, 60's and 70's we gave them Ponsonby.
Since then we have taken that back and given them Otara and Otahuhu instead.
"When you think of it,
Lifes a bowl of ....MERDE"
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