Restrictions on bikes similar to firearms

[Usarka]

If you want to nit-pick then it is more like this:

Gun = point, shoot, kill, repeat, point, shoot, injure, repeat, point, shoot, getkilledbyAOS.

Bike = point, shoot, kill, die x 100 peryear (would have copy/pasted 100x but that'd be obnoxious)...

A biker can kill 100 (???) people while a gunman kills one then gets shot? Bahahahahaha thank you come again.

But if we're counting total deaths including holder of said weapon lets add to the deaths of innocent people by not forgetting the 50 odd people who kill themselves each year with firearms. Oooh no I didn't say that - head back in the sand .

[Swoop]

A biker can kill 100 (???) people while a gunman kills one then gets shot?

I presume he is saying that 100 bikers get killed every year, not that a biker can kill 100 others.

[jono035]

A biker can kill 100 (???) people while a gunman kills one then gets shot? Bahahahahaha thank you come again.

But if we're counting total deaths including holder of said weapon lets add to the deaths of innocent people by not forgetting the 50 odd people who kill themselves each year with firearms. Oooh no I didn't say that - head back in the sand .

The thought that someone might read it that way actually went through my head before I pushed submit but I figured nah, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt

Do you honestly think people need firearms to kill themselves? Of the 3 cases of suicide that I am familiar with (friend, friend of a friend, schoolmate) 2 hung themselves and 1 gassed himself in his car. The rate of firearms involvement in suicides has been steadily declining in fact.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10513144

"Mr Green said raw statistics showed crime involving firearms had slipped since 10 years ago from 1.7 per cent of all violent crime to 1.28 per cent.

Suicides involving firearms had decreased and the homicide rate involving firearms had dropped 35 per cent in the past 15 years, he said."

Edit: The fact that you are bringing suicide rates into this is a pretty clear indicator that you already have strong preconceived ideas about firearms control and safety. It is a tragedy when someone decides to take the course of committing suicide and to indicate that somehow the firearm that they used is responsible not only distracts from that, but is reprehensible in the way it belittles the problem, as if the primary motivator was 'because they could'. I am always happy to debate firearms control and am happy to admit there are areas that it can be improved on when they are pointed out. I do not believe that I am likely to receive the same courtesy from you, unfortunately. Thus far I have had to endure wise cracks made about firearms owners and their sexual proclivities, had someone claim that they had won the argument because I had not responded in time (apparently 10 minutes is the allowance) and now snarky comments about facts that I am implied to have suppressed for some reason? Surely over a subject as important as this a polite and articulate debate would not be entirely out of the question?

[Elysium]

Lately it has come to my attention that there is a growing number of motorcycle related accidents.

I took it upon myself to make a few suggestions to LTNZ as to methoids which could alleviate some of these accidents or at least lessen the impact upon the general public who, on the whole, dont really like tose noisy machines anyway.

So below are my reccomendations.

What!!? Thats crazy talk fool!