Mass medication - our daily bread

[ManDownUnder]

If they start meddling with our pies, there's nothing for it but civil war.

On this point there can be no argument! Take it INTERNATIONAL (***BOM bom BOM*** kettle drums in the background!!!!)

[Dave Lobster]

I think putting LSD in bread would be funnier, but hey, that's just me.

Off topic.. sorry... but can anyone remember that film where there was a guy smuggling to bottles of LSD somewhere.. and he tested it on his cat? Old film..

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[jono035]

A breadmaker is one thing that I would recommend to anyone with a spare spot on the bench anyway. If you keep the ingredients and measuring stuff handy it only takes a couple of minutes tops to put a loaf on and the smell/taste of fresh bread just can't be beaten.

I make wholemeal loaves with pumpkin seeds, linseed, and sunflower seeds. Also fresh foccacia with rosemary and garlic crust... mmmmm...

Won't save ya that much money really, but it sure as hell is a tasty way to avoid folic acid!

[peasea]

A breadmaker is one thing that I would recommend to anyone with a spare spot on the bench anyway. If you keep the ingredients and measuring stuff handy it only takes a couple of minutes tops to put a loaf on and the smell/taste of fresh bread just can't be beaten.

I make wholemeal loaves with pumpkin seeds, linseed, and sunflower seeds. Also fresh foccacia with rosemary and garlic crust... mmmmm...

Won't save ya that much money really, but it sure as hell is a tasty way to avoid folic acid!

I'm with you on that one. My sister had one for years, great smells and yummy bread. Screw the tossers trying to mass-medicate us, I'll make the choice if you don't mind.

[Str8 Jacket]

On the subject of fluoride in water, I am also anti that in a big way.

I grew up in Ohakune, we had fluoride in our water. I am 28 now and have NEVER had a filling or the need for one in my lifetime so far... Also, to put things in perspective, I have drunk around about 1.5-2litres of coke/ diet coke a day since I was 15. And before anyone judges, I dont care!

[Naki Rat]

Yup,
why the hell should i be dosed with extra folic acid so that pregnant chicks can get some too?

talk about a blunt tool; i think i'll give up bread

According to polls I ran this and another very different forum recently 25% (more or less) of us have a problem with wheat and so have , or are in the process of, giving up bread and other wheat containing products

[Okey Dokey]

I hope you are right, Mully. I was sure I had read it was going in our flour, too. I particularly watched for this as I am a home baker. Here's hoping I read it wrong. I can't find an article at the moment, but will continue to watch.

[oldrider]

I hope you are right, Mully. I was sure I had read it was going in our flour, too. I particularly watched for this as I am a home baker. Here's hoping I read it wrong. I can't find an article at the moment, but will continue to watch.

Yes, read that too some where, or heard it on the radio but was definitely referred to some where!

We are gluten intolerant and are very careful about what we bake with.

Mass medication pisses me off it comes from state school teachers, the way they punish the majority for the behaviour of the few mental attitude!

Bloody socialists don't understand personal responsibility and freedom of the individual.

[cold comfort]

the Burgen "soy-lin" bread on the bench has (accord to the wrapper) 200ug of folate (folic acid) per 100gm serving. So its already in some bread now. The Ministers comment that there is "no science to say it is a problem but no-one know what the long term effects are" is not very reassuring! Acc to the news NZ now has the 3rd fattest population in the world. So.. as a large proportion of stupid, lazy women who don't know they are preganant, are likely to be FAT, there is a good chance they will eat the requisite 11 slices of bread a day. So the gubbermint is always right!

[Badjelly]

...The Ministers comment that there is "no science to say it is a problem but no-one know what the long term effects are" is not very reassuring!...

You want to be 100% reassured nothing you eat (or fail to eat) will hurt you? You're on the wrong planet.

Soy+linseed breads are also high in phytoestrogens. Wikipaedia says these are "considered by some nutritionists to be useful in the prevention of cancer and by others to be carcinogenic and endocrine disruptive". Given that these mimic female hormones, I think they are best avoided by men.

Regarding flour, NZ soils are very low in selenium, so before we started importing Australian flour, selenium deficiency was a problem. Luckily, Aussie soils have more selenium than ours, so it doesn't need to be added artificially.

Selenium is an essential mineral that is extremely poisonous in large doses. Like quite a few other things.

[Naki Rat]

........ Acc to the news NZ now has the 3rd fattest population in the world. .......

Despite some time spent trying to find the study quoted by numerous news media I cannot find the basis for this claim. No graph, no tables, no list to back up the "3rd in the world" claim.

If anybody can provide the evidence I would be very interested but in the absence of same I am assuming that this just another crock manufactured by the powers that be in order to beat us up with the guilts

[James Deuce]

Looks like it's been dropped by the Nats and it wasn't going in flour, only non-organic bread. Whatever the hell non-organic bread is.

http://www.nzfsa.govt.nz/consumers/c...x.htm#P39_3272

The reasoning:

http://www.foodstandards.govt.nz/sta...smentr3568.cfm

[Shadows]

the Burgen "soy-lin" bread on the bench has (accord to the wrapper) 200ug of folate (folic acid) per 100gm serving. So its already in some bread now. The Ministers comment that there is "no science to say it is a problem but no-one know what the long term effects are" is not very reassuring! Acc to the news NZ now has the 3rd fattest population in the world. So.. as a large proportion of stupid, lazy women who don't know they are preganant, are likely to be FAT, there is a good chance they will eat the requisite 11 slices of bread a day. So the gubbermint is always right!

The folate in that bread comes from that naturally occurring in the ingredients. As in a lot of the foods we eat. It is not "fortified".

[Naki Rat]

The folate in that bread comes from that naturally occurring in the ingredients. As in a lot of the foods we eat. It is not "fortified".

And in most breads the wheat has been that heavily refined to a dead white carbohydrate (flour) that most of the folate has long since gone. A bit of wholegrain goes some of the way in correcting that situation (but only a bit).

[cold comfort]

[QUOTE=Badjelly;1129307138]" You want to be 100% reassured nothing you eat (or fail to eat) will hurt you? You're on the wrong planet."

Nothing that simplistic- (Personally i have no reason to believe its problematic). Its really the moral issue of mass medication. Just amusing the govt are always keen to implement something they do not know about long term. There are many instances where they have said later "oops, we were wrong". (eg rushed swine flu vacc resulting in 500 cases Guillian Barre syndrome with 25 deaths).
I didn't say the bread was "fortified" just noted it was present. If you then add a random dosage (which the bakers assoc says it will be) and eat variable quantities, how much do you get?
My post was largely tongue in cheek however, there is never any shortage of "expert opinion" wiling to jump on percieved inaccuracies