Pakeha - do you like this name?

**wickle** · 16th July 2009, 13:17

Voted Kiwi but "New Zealander" is what I fill in on papers if that option is available (other)

**want-a-harley** · 16th July 2009, 13:20

I understood pakeha to mean from New Zealand but not Maori, that is, it is different from a recent white immigrant, I could be wrong.

I prefer white New Zealander to NZ european

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 16th July 2009, 13:22

I prefer Kiwi (wel I would wouldn't I)or New Zealander on the census I'm down as a Jedi

**MSTRS:Me** · 16th July 2009, 13:23

Originally Posted by klingon

I'm a Pakeha!

I'm a mix of various races (mostly European with a bit more exotic stuff thrown in for good luck). My ancestors on various branches of my family tree have been here for between three & eight generations. Nothing else does justice to my status better than "Pakeha." We have a unique place in the world!

Originally Posted by want-a-harley

I understood pakeha to mean from New Zealand but not Maori, that is, it is different from a recent white immigrant, I could be wrong.

I prefer white New Zealander to NZ european

Anyone with a white skin is technically a Pakeha. It does not mean a white resident of this country.

**Dean** · 16th July 2009, 13:47

I am Maori, i have called one person a pakeha when i was with my dad, and on a recieving end there is also Maori being called all sorts of names. Honestly i can name hundreds of racial slurs aimed at pre dominantly Maori, but only a few aimed at nz europeans.

**want-a-harley** · 16th July 2009, 14:06

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Anyone with a white skin is technically a Pakeha. It does not mean a white resident of this country.

Pākehā(noun) New Zealander of European descent. (Te Kōhure Textbook (Ed. 2): 128-138

**SPman** · 16th July 2009, 14:24

I don't care what you call me, as long as it's not late for dinner!

**firefighter** · 16th July 2009, 14:44

Originally Posted by Dean

I am Maori, i have called one person a pakeha when i was with my dad, and on a recieving end there is also Maori being called all sorts of names. Honestly i can name hundreds of racial slurs aimed at pre dominantly Maori, but only a few aimed at nz europeans.

And how many of these are on government forms/applications and happily used by the media????

None.

My heart bleeds for you.......

This thread is about the word 'PAKEHA', NOT how many words you can use to offend maori.......although nice attempt at trying to attain the whole sympathy thing and make this about your cultures problems......

bloody typical.

**klingon** · 16th July 2009, 14:52

I really really really don't like being called "white"or "European."

a) I am so much more than the colour of my skin
b) I have never even been to Europe! I'm definitely not a European.

I suppose I could be called a "New Zealander of Predominantly European Descent" but I think "Pakeha" encapsulates my culture as well as my genetic heritage.

**Morcs** · 16th July 2009, 14:55

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Anyone with a white skin is technically a Pakeha. It does not mean a white resident of this country.

And how is that different from the many derogatory terms for black skin? and whats technical about it? Its another language ffs, and its not even the main language of its country of origin, so therefore, the word itself is quite irrelevant and meaningless really.

**toebug** · 16th July 2009, 14:58

Originally Posted by Morcs

Its racist.

Im not having hories and parlangi's putting a label on me.

Im british mofo's.

Just like you wouldn't label them, right!

Originally Posted by want-a-harley

I understood pakeha to mean from New Zealand but not Maori, that is, it is different from a recent white immigrant, I could be wrong.

I agree! I dont mind pakeha, I am kiwi born and bred and non-maori therefore I am Pakeha.

Originally Posted by want-a-harley

Pākehā(noun) New Zealander of European descent. (Te Kōhure Textbook (Ed. 2): 128-138

+1

**Morcs** · 16th July 2009, 15:02

Originally Posted by toebug

Just like you wouldn't label them, right!

Sarcasm and irony are wonderful things. If you didnt notice, my post stinks of them.

**Waxxa** · 16th July 2009, 15:05

my understanding is the word Pakeha means foreigner, someone who is not born here in NZ and includes all races that have migrated here; english, south africans, indians, chinese, aussies, americans, japanese etc. Someone not born here. Its not about the colour of your skin.

I myself was born here in NZ (european descent) which does not make me a foreigner and hence my distaste of being called a foreigner i.e. a Pakeha.
All the lakes and mountains, rivers, beaches, lands, forests etc are my taonga (treasure) as well.