Pakeha - do you like this name?

**Bonez** · 17th July 2009, 11:27

Originally Posted by peasea

I find it all rather fascinating too, as I found ancient Egypt fascinating when I was at school. I loved the mummies at the museum and shit like that. The Incas and Aztecs also take my interest, especially with the firebird drawings and so on.

I can recall one Doctor Leaky unerthing all manner of cool fossils in Africa years ago and trying to find the 'missing link' etc. I don't recall his work being stymied by Africans destroying ancient sites or preventing examination of bones and other artifacts.

I really don't give a rats arse who was in NZ first but I would like to get to the bottom of this land's history. If the Oompa-loompa tribe got here first, so be it, if it were Celts, so be it, Maori or whoever. Let's get over the political/racist b/s and get to the facts.

Suppressing documents till 2068 or so doesn't help does it? I hear the pagans are having a bit of a resurgance in Blighty.

**Winston001** · 17th July 2009, 11:30

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

To be honest names are just that and it's upto to the receiver to ignore the names...or make it an excuse to make a fuss.I get called a POM all the time and it goes in one and out the other....

Mmmm...think the Race Relations Conciliator would have a few examples to make you think. Try walking down the street cheerfully talking about coons and chinks.......and then explain why it's their problem....

**buellbabe** · 17th July 2009, 11:49

Yes well all very interesting...lots of points made that I could comment on but can't be bothered really...its not that I don't care its just that I'm apathetic...

I'm a Kiwi/NZer and bloody proud to be one!

**Grahameeboy** · 17th July 2009, 11:49

Originally Posted by Winston001

Mmmm...think the Race Relations Conciliator would have a few examples to make you think. Try walking down the street cheerfully talking about coons and chinks.......and then explain why it's their problem....

Being called names..four eyes, ginger etc is part of life.....no different to being called a wanker, idiot etc....I sometimes think that race becomes too PC these days....calling someone a darkie does not mean that person does not like darkies.....different if you start telling them that because they are a darkie they are stupid or whatever...then it's personal which is different...Probably would have less issues if we did not have a Race Relations Counsellor.Make sense "Geezer"

**MSTRS:Me** · 17th July 2009, 18:00

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

...different if you start telling them that because they are a darkie they are stupid or whatever...then it's personal which is different...

Grahame, Grahame, Grahame. I despair.
Calling them stupid, because they are a darkie, is not personal. It is generalising.

And not all stupid people are darkies...(control yourself, Finn).

**Mom** · 17th July 2009, 18:05

Originally Posted by peasea

Does anyone have a derogatory term for Canadians?

Well now that you mention that. I was born in Montreal but my family are from Newfoundland. There are more than a few Newfie jokes around, no doubt there will be someone along to enlighten you soon

**Pussy** · 17th July 2009, 18:06

Originally Posted by Mom

Well now that you mention that. I was born in Montreal but my family are from Newfoundland. There are more than a few Newfie jokes around, no doubt there will be someone along to enlighten you soon

Go on, Mom.... tell us a couple!

**James Deuce** · 17th July 2009, 18:49

Originally Posted by Mom

Well now that you mention that. I was born in Montreal but my family are from Newfoundland. There are more than a few Newfie jokes around, no doubt there will be someone along to enlighten you soon

Hahahahahahah! At least you're not a mullet sporting Nova Scotian. Hahahahahahahahaha.

**Grahameeboy** · 17th July 2009, 19:03

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Grahame, Grahame, Grahame. I despair.
Calling them stupid, because they are a darkie, is not personal. It is generalising.

And not all stupid people are darkies...(control yourself, Finn).

Still more personal

**popelli** · 17th July 2009, 19:12

I find the word ******* offensive and refuse to be catagorised by it

there are several variations on what the literal translation means, all of which are derogatory

however it can be a nightmare filling out govt forms as there is no catagory for nz citizens, you can either be catagorised as a ****** or you have to catagorise yourself as other - this is in essense institutional racism