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    I hold my line and speed but leave room on the inside and outside so the lapping rider/s can pass without me upsetting their race.
    Afterall the leaders are the most important in the race - there's 3 points between 1st and 2nd but only one between 5th and 6th...

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    Someone should ask Kickaha what it means....

    Afterall, he sees it every race when he's lapped!!!!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Maido View Post
    Al Laudington Suspended following his outburst:

    http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jul/e/n090722a.htm
    Thats brilliant! Prob not good for ama racing as it seems like he does a good job but i hate wankers like that!

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    Surely the idea is to warn only that another bike is coming at knots.
    if your getting laped then the bike has to be going quite alot quicker.
    Frights get people moving off line and likely to disrupt the 2nd lapping bike thats battling with the first.
    Changing line sounds very dangerous considering most marshels are near corner entrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    Yeah have to agree steve, been trying to find it on you tube. Come accross another of aaron yates moves on a lapper, i cant understand why guys turn left before they turn right at the last minute obviously niether does he haha
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBoKWno0-DU

    another one i found of Dom Jones what a position to be in!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_YSn...eature=related
    While I understand Yates would have been annoyed by what happened, I hope he got seriously punished for the behavior he showed after the crash....what a twat!
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    Never ever change your racing line or decrease speed unnecessarily. The onus is on the faster rider to ensure he/she can go round you on either the inside or outside safely. There will be times when you'll get done by one on the outside and one on the inside into or out of the same corner... but just hold your line and all will be good. And don't flinch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Exactly right. As a marshall operating under MNZ rules, I only wave the blue flag at a rider who is about to be lapped/overtaken because that rider is significantly slower than the following bike. It means "Hold your line" and also serves as a warning so that there should be no surprise/fright when the pass occurs. A blue-flagged rider who changes line could be construed as trying to block, and will be reported/black flagged.
    wot e said ^ Although, I have blueflagged people in the past, and they have run off track and crashed

    Its to warn slower riders of fast riders approaching, hold your line, and prepare to be passed.

    At the Nats especially, there is a massive difference between front and back speeds in the premiere classes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Flags in the MNZ rule book

    Just for general information for people who aren't racers that browse this section of the forum.

    6-19 The following flags will be recognised as the standard colours to be used as signals to
    riders during a race:
    Green: Start
    Red: All riders stop racing.
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    Yellow: Held Stationary – SLOW DOWN – Proceed with caution. No overtaking until
    danger area is passed. Sidecar riders-this could also mean your passenger is in difficulties.
    Yellow: Waved – SLOW DOWN NOW – Proceed with extreme caution. No overtaking
    until the danger area is passed, be prepared to stop.
    For MX & SX: Whether the yellow flag be stationary or waved: this means no jumping at
    all.
    White: Last lap.
    Black: Individual rider to stop and retire from course. The rider’s number must be shown
    on a board at the same point as the black flag is displayed.
    Black and White Check: Finish for all riders.
    Red and Yellow Stripes: Oil on course.
    Red and White Cross: Ambulance on course, proceed with caution.
    Black with Orange Centre: Road Race Only: Machine to be removed from the circuit
    immediately. The rider’s number must be shown on a board at the same point as the flag is
    displayed. Flags must be a minimum size of 24” x 24” (600mm x 600mm).
    Black and White Stripe: Oval Track Only, Competitor under protest. The rider’s
    number must be shown on a board at the same point as the flag is displayed.
    Blue Waved: SX Only. Warning you are about to be lapped.
    Blue Waved Road Racing: Overtaking signal warning rider is about to be overtaken.
    Blue Held Stationary Road Racing: Indicates that competitor is soon to be overtaken.

    Purple: MX Protest Flag.

    6-10 When overtaking, the onus is on the overtaking competitor to overtake without causing
    interference to the overtaken competitor. Any competitor guilty of foul or unfair riding
    shall be excluded, suspended, disqualified or otherwise punished.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITLrfjzC6nc

    the offending incident.

    make up ye own mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maido View Post
    Red and Yellow Stripes: Oil on course.
    We also use it to indicate lime spread on oil, and/or other debris that cannot be immediately cleared...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    We also use it to indicate lime spread on oil, and/or other debris that cannot be immediately cleared...
    Yeah it's used more as "slippery shit" flag than just oil
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    Definitely--hold your line -do NOT get out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Yeah it's used more as "slippery shit" flag than just oil
    Us marshals like to call it the "slippery surface" flag

    aka, get your running shoes on
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    AMA have released a new rule guide line for 'Blue Flags'

    Official Statement from AMA Pro Racing Regarding the Use of the Blue Flag

    DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (July 27, 2009) - Recent events have called into question the use of the blue flag and the expected response of riders to whom the blue flag is displayed. In order to clear up any confusion, AMA Pro Racing makes the following statement:

    AMA Pro Road Racing competitors are professionals and are expected to be familiar with the rules and regulations found in the 2009 AMA Pro Road Racing rule book. The first page of the rule book states the following:

    "The intent of a specific rule will override a competitor's interpretation of a rule. The intent of a rule will be determined by AMA Pro Racing."

    The overtaking of a slower rider by a faster rider where there is no position change is a situation that must be approached from a safety standpoint, and the intent of the rule regarding the use of the blue flag is to make a potentially dangerous situation less so. Section 7.14a.vii dictates the usage of and expected response to blue flags:

    vii. Blue Flag: Indicates to a rider that they are about to be overtaken. Riders are advised to keep their line and allow the faster rider to pass. Riders disregarding this flag may be black-flagged at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing.

    The safety of riders is of paramount importance, and each part of the rule deals with a specific aspect of protecting both the slower and faster rider. By advising that riders keep their line, they are being asked to stay in a controlled trajectory and not make erratic changes in their course, allowing the faster rider to predict the course of travel and avoid contact with the rider being passed. The second part of the sentence says that they are to allow the faster rider to pass, intended to further diminish the threat of contact between riders.

    AMA Pro Racing is the premier professional motorcycle racing organization in North America, operating a full schedule of events and championships for a variety of motorcycle disciplines. From its Daytona Beach headquarters, the organization operates and manages AMA Pro Road Racing, which includes AMA Pro American Superbike, AMA Pro Daytona SportBike, AMA Pro SuperSport and AMA Pro SunTrust Moto-GT. AMA Pro Racing also manages and works closely with the day-to-day operational organizations of the AMA Pro Flat Track Championship and the AMA Pro Supermoto Championship Series in addition to other two-wheel and ATV series. Learn more about AMA Pro Racing at www.amaproracing.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    AMA have released a new rule guide line for 'Blue Flags'
    Well that didn't tell us anything more than what we already knew!

    Blue flags are not hard to understand and there really is very little to interpret in this rule...blue flag shown to rider....you are about to be overtaken by a lapping rider....hold your line and be predictable and DON'T use defensive lines to block them passing because it is not affecting your position....done!

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