Motard scarcity at VMCC. Options?

**Shorty_925** · 24th July 2009, 15:50

There is the demand for dirt, thats why theyve gone out and created a series in Taupo.

As for running within the Vic series, maybe putting a few cones down a straight to slow it down and have the chance to back it into a corner could be a better option..? And same go's for running the back section of manfiled with buckets sounds a great idea, and like most things, problem being having enough helpers to run is the next problem.

**ajturbo** · 24th July 2009, 16:40

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Yes its slack and I agree we are on the verge of loosing the VMCC support.
Im coming on Saturday to btw (changed my mind)

Anyway there are 9 entries there should be way more but in its defence the issues are

1/ There arent as many motard racers out there as there are sportsbike riders. so you will usually get smaller feilds
2/ Some motarders (I said some) feel the longer tracks cook their engines and pipes (remember a Motard revs fuck loads higher than any sportsbike) for me I am fine with the bigger tracks.
3/ There is the distance thing most motarders I guess are Auckland?

Anyway here is what Im doing about it

Shortly I will be promoting a new website that will be 100% motards, it wont be super active as obviously its a smaller group, but it will provide a one stop shop for Motarders to go to in relation to events as well as racing tips etc etc etc, think KB but smaller.
I already have support from KTM nz as well as a bunch of other businesses and I believe it will also promote the sport.

Currently Motards are out on a limb and have no real unification, this is what I want to change.

So if I can ask VMCC to stick with it and hopefully we can turn it around for next year, in the meantime I will be doing what I can to get punters to the track.

thanks for this Q...

but it is THEIR/YOUR hands...

BEARS has been talked about......

go the BUELL...........

**ajturbo** · 24th July 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by scracha

Wot about throwing some cones in the middle of the longer straights to stop their motors blowing up?

Sorry...but the F3/Pro twins/125 grid is full as it is.

Kick em out and get the post post classics bikes out there.

THIS is an interesting idea!!!!

more talking on this idea????

we would need a bit more time to put out cones..(5min??":???)

interesting idea matey

OH SHIT.. Bourbon glass MT....

**Kickaha** · 24th July 2009, 17:39

Originally Posted by Billy

And the resulting mess where the dirtbikes crossed the track(in between turns 3 & 4) was a complete disaster,especially when it rained and I seriously doubt Manfeild are gonna let motorcycles rip up their infeild anyway.
Hope this clears up those issues for you and good luck for the weekend

You could have them enter and exit on the old return road after splash so there would be no dirt onto the main circuit

**SWERVE** · 24th July 2009, 17:47

Hey if ya want big "chook chaser" fields then move south.

Every time they race down here the fields just get bigger & bigger (must have been 30+ at levels last weekend.)

Keeps growing like this and they will have to split the class to accomodate numbers.............oh just love it when us "southies' do something better than ya "northeners".

Both levels & ruapuna have decent straights and i have never seen an engine failure yet........ lets face it if ya own a modern 4 stroke thumper you aint scared of maintanace.

However although i love them and would be there too if i could afford one, i cant see the attraction of racing a motard on a long track designed for road bikes/cars, it really needs an off road or technical section thrown in to sort the men from the boys. i believe this would also help to lure some of the motox boys.

It was good to see some of the fast tarmac boys losing a bit of sweat on the small section at greymouth last year.

Also heard a rumour that the upgrade planned for Teretonga may include a tarmac of road type section with jumps /banked section etc...... like the european tracks have.

**Billy** · 24th July 2009, 17:50

Originally Posted by Kickaha

You could have them enter and exit on the old return road after splash so there would be no dirt onto the main circuit

Yip,But that wouldnt give them access to the best part of the infeild and Manfeild wouldnt let it happen anyway so its probably a dead duck.The place has definitely taken a HUGE step backwards from the days Rob and Wendy Lester ran it

**ajturbo** · 24th July 2009, 17:58

Originally Posted by Kickaha

You could have them enter and exit on the old return road after splash so there would be no dirt onto the main circuit

fuck off mainlander

**Ivan** · 24th July 2009, 18:17

Originally Posted by montsta56

Do not bung them in with F3 please just get rid of them to allow more track time for proper bikes.

I agree we in formula 3 have a full grid as it is and then allowing them in there is rediculous, The differences are huge liek you say lines also the fact the handle bars protude a long way out etc I have no problems with motards I just dont think that the class should be mix and matched with road and dirt.

**svs** · 24th July 2009, 18:34

same thing happened with the sidecars.

I'm all for the motards, but if 9 entries across 2 classes is all we got then that's not good.

Are there other motard events on clashing with the VMCC rounds? How about the crowd up at tauramanui? (mind you when we thought all the riders we going there a few years ago, I called him, and he thought they were all coming to Manfeild!

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The motard guys have to spread the message. Give them fair warning to pick the numbers up (like the rest of the season) but if things don't improve then look at running something else next year - or better still - keep the existinf number of classes and go for more track time

**mossy1200** · 24th July 2009, 18:43

Originally Posted by ajturbo

THIS is an interesting idea!!!!

more talking on this idea????

we would need a bit more time to put out cones..(5min??":???)

interesting idea matey

OH SHIT.. Bourbon glass MT....

Back straight cones out by the marshy before warm up lap , add front straight cones during the warm up lap.no lost time.Reduce them one lap for the extra time the race will take by slowing them mid straight and race will take same time.

**Peter Smith** · 24th July 2009, 18:57

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Back straight cones out by the marshy before warm up lap , add front straight cones during the warm up lap.no lost time.Reduce them one lap for the extra time the race will take by slowing them mid straight and race will take same time.

Cones are very dangerous, if a rider clips a cone or two into the path of the bikes behind there could be a nasty accident.
They talked about this at for Taupo before, but to try and ride over a cone while in a corner would certainly end in tears.

**svs** · 24th July 2009, 19:04

Originally Posted by Peter Smith

Cones are very dangerous, if a rider clips a cone or two into the path of the bikes behind there could be a nasty accident.
They talked about this at for Taupo before, but to try and ride over a cone while in a corner would certainly end in tears.

It was how it was done a few years ago.

Like Peter said, riders just clip the cones and send em flying, and then ride through them after a lap or two. Didn't work. Now if you filled them with concrete

(only kidding)

**Peter Smith** · 24th July 2009, 19:07

Originally Posted by svs

It was how it was done a few years ago.

Like Peter said, riders just clip the cones and send em flying, and then ride through them after a lap or two. Didn't work. Now if you filled them with concrete

(only kidding)

Now your talking. Add some spikes and a few land mines and then I'd come to watch.

**GaZBur** · 24th July 2009, 19:43

Originally Posted by k14

I'm surprised they don't have the support. Last weekend at levels I think there were at least 15-20, didn't count but if someone knows some more precise number then pipe up. They are usually a well subscribed class at all tracks down here so I'm unsure why they aren't as popular up north!

You are actually way out at 15-20. That is more like the regular number we have seen at Teretonga recently. Last weekend at Levels there were 31 Motards. Every time I ride there is a new guy or gal on a Motard. If it keeps growing at this rate there may be a need to run S1 and S2 seperately. I believe the reason they are populsr is because down here we get to race at least 2 events a month so the interest is kept up.