$48,000 P.A. no skills easy hours, call me.

[jetboy]

I hate to burst your bubble there jb but not many people actually plan when thay are going to have kids.If the majority did the world would have a much smaller population.

Bubble not burst at all. And if that is the case then the many people who don't plan for kids should not be entitled to any child-rearing benefits at all. I stress again (and this is where most of the world is probably fucked in the head) - WHY HAVE KIDS IF YOU HAVE NOT PLANNED FOR THEM?!

From a personal viewpoint I use protection so I don't get a girl pregnant. If that protection failed then tough shit for me, I'll have to cast aside my 'wants' in life for a bit, man up and provide for my child (assuming termination was off the table, but that's a whole other discussion).

People need to take responsibility for their actions, if you have unprotected sex then you should take responsibility if and when your seed is sown and provide for your child, do not expect everyone else to.

[MIXONE]

All I can say jetboy is that you sound like the sort of person that plans their meals a week ahead as well.

[jetboy]

I think the figure is about 50% of all pregnancies are not planned.

Well then this 50% should have used protection, and if they did and it failed well tough luck - it happens. We all know from sex-ed at school that the only thing that guarantees no pregnancy is no sex.

In either case, you made the baby so you should provide for it. Why, because your rubber broke/you're too horney to use protection/you couldn't be bothered using any/the contraception failed, should I, along with other taxpayers, have to fork out for this unplanned pregnancy? Sheesh - I didn't even get a lay out of it and I STILL have to pay!! haha

[allycatz]

Well done Jetboy....so if a lady got pregnant with your child but didn't want to cement the relationship you would pay for ALL of her expenses so she didnt need a benefit if there was no job to return to? *tui*

[Oscar]

Well then this 50% should have used protection, and if they did and it failed well tough luck - it happens. We all know from sex-ed at school that the only thing that guarantees no pregnancy is no sex.

In either case, you made the baby so you should provide for it. Why, because your rubber broke/you're too horney to use protection/you couldn't be bothered using any/the contraception failed, should I, along with other taxpayers, have to fork out for this unplanned pregnancy? Sheesh - I didn't even get a lay out of it and I STILL have to pay!! haha

Perhaps you should wait until you actually have sex before you try and comment on it.

[jetboy]

All I can say jetboy is that you sound like the sort of person that plans their meals a week ahead as well.

No, I am the sort of person who takes responsibility for my actions and doesn't expect society to clean up my mess.

At least I'm not the sort of person to crap themselves and expect everyone to wipe my arse clean.

[allycatz]

Well then this 50% should have used protection, and if they did and it failed well tough luck - it happens. We all know from sex-ed at school that the only thing that guarantees no pregnancy is no sex.

In either case, you made the baby so you should provide for it. Why, because your rubber broke/you're too horney to use protection/you couldn't be bothered using any/the contraception failed, should I, along with other taxpayers, have to fork out for this unplanned pregnancy? Sheesh - I didn't even get a lay out of it and I STILL have to pay!! haha

Jetboy if you came off your bike and were permanently disabled and unable to work, chances are the taxpayer would have to support you if you didn't have suitable insurance. Motorbikes being big boys 'babies' an all....

[jetboy]

Well done Jetboy....so if a lady got pregnant with your child but didn't want to cement the relationship you would pay for ALL of her expenses so she didnt need a benefit if there was no job to return to? *tui*

Not at all - I would pay my fair share of expenses and hope that, although I may not want a relationship with the mother, I could have joint custody or whatever it's called and both share our duties. Things would be tight financially for sure, but my kid would come first.

[jetboy]

Jetboy if you came off your bike and were permanently disabled and unable to work, chances are the taxpayer would have to support you if you didn't have suitable insurance. Motorbikes being big boys 'babies' an all....

Ahh that's the thing - I DO have suitable insurance. And we are talking about kids here not health as I already stated I support tax funding the health system.

I bought the bike and got insurance for both the bike and me....I took RESPONSIBILITY for my 'baby'.

[jetboy]

I honestly fail to understand what problem my answers are causing some of you.

My point is this: The benefit should be in place to assist people in need. I do not believe the taxpayer should contribute to the cost of raising a child if all reasonable steps were not taken by the parents of that child to support it themselves.
I also think that the logic some of you are using where "you can't plan kids" is rubbish and, quite frankly, a sad mentality. If you have sex, be prepared to accept the consequences...end of story.

I'd like to add that I was not making personal attacks of people posting in this forum, and these views are my own, personal opinions. I just feel that people need to take more responsibility for their actions.

[allycatz]

I honestly fail to understand what problem my answers are causing some of you.

My point is this: The benefit should be in place to assist people in need. I do not believe the taxpayer should contribute to the cost of raising a child if all reasonable steps were not taken by the parents of that child to support it themselves.
I also think that the logic some of you are using where "you can't plan kids" is rubbish and, quite frankly, a sad mentality. If you have sex, be prepared to accept the consequences...end of story.

Yeah, but I had twins....I planned a baby not two of the little ferkers ... BUT! I did get spayed at the same time I had them

[jetboy]

Yeah, but I had twins....I planned a baby not two of the little ferkers ... BUT! I did get spayed at the same time I had them

Haha fair enough!

But you mentioned earlier that you worked and planned for a kid, and it was a nasty occurence that mucked you up for a bit. As I said my entire crusade this afternoon is against people who have a kid and expect the rest of us to pick up the bill.

[ducatilover]

so is it bad that we look after two children [8 and 10] with fetal alcohol syndrome when the useless mother is having her 12th child and 10 have been taken off her? We get paid to look after them and provide them with a loving and caring home with everything they can need, especially the needed one on one attention. Are people going to say that this government funded system is bad? I do not condone what the silly bint has done, in fact I despise her for doing such a terrible thing, and not just once. Would people rather let these mentally challenge and socially incompetent children suffer in the hands of some low life alcoholic breeding slave? Or have good people look after them and care for them and help as much as possible?

[steve_t]

so is it bad that we look after two children [8 and 10] with fetal alcohol syndrome when the useless mother is having her 12th child and 10 have been taken off her? We get paid to look after them and provide them with a loving and caring home with everything they can need, especially the needed one on one attention. Are people going to say that this government funded system is bad? I do not condone what the silly bint has done, in fact I despise her for doing such a terrible thing, and not just once. Would people rather let these mentally challenge and socially incompetent children suffer in the hands of some low life alcoholic breeding slave? Or have good people look after them and care for them and help as much as possible?

The government needed to offer that mother $10,000 cash in exchange for getting her tubes tied. I'm sure she'd have taken the deal and the government would have saved $1000s in the long run.

[Okey Dokey]

I agree with jetboy that people need to take responsibility for their own actions. Too many people on this poor old world is a bigger problem than global warming. "Accidental / unplanned" pregnancies being 50% of total is just ridiculous.