$48,000 P.A. no skills easy hours, call me.

**R6_kid:Me** · 28th July 2009, 20:52

WTF has it got to do with the Labour party other than the fact that they want to be in power, or just make National look bad. If anyone wants to make a complaint it should be the stupid bitches that are already complaining.

Oh I forgot... Labour thinks beneficiaries are a good thing.

**Headbanger** · 28th July 2009, 20:53

Maybe she's putting her side of the story, maybe it's fair enough, maybe not, but it beggars belief that she just went ahead and did this with no advice.

Tactical decision, Make the play and see how the consequences pay out.

Nothing wrong with that if your prepared to pay the price. I wouldn't let it detract from the real issue.

**reofix** · 28th July 2009, 20:58

just because you say that is the issue does NOT make it so.... this is about recieving 700 a week from fellow taxpayers and being pissed off its not 800

**ynot slow** · 28th July 2009, 21:02

Hate to say but how many would be happy with any politician giving out your own private business to all and sundry, which is what happened.But also why should people get hammered by an MP for speaking out.

We have privacy laws for that privacy of my personal property.

And the Greens getting in on it on TV just for their gain is a piss off.

Maybe there is more to this than first reported,as usual,get the scoop first then check the facts.

But then if she gets that amount from the govt,I sure as shit hope her kids father is paying,somehow I doubt it,she must have 5 or 6 kids in her care.

**Molly** · 28th July 2009, 21:07

Maybe we should defrost Maggie Thatcher (yes, I know she's not dead but we'd still need to defrost her) and bring her down to sort out all the scroungers.

Training schemes for youngsters not in full time education or work are a much better idea than cash handouts for doing nothing.

**p.dath** · 28th July 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by Winston001

Pretty much my reaction too. However she has children with medical problems so its a complex situation. I do wonder where the father(s) of her children are though? Naturally he expects the taxpayer to pick up the tab......

Still, $700/wk is good going without having to leave the house.

All they said was there was $715 in benefit payments per week. That's not to say she is not receiving other income such as from the children's Father.

**p.dath** · 28th July 2009, 21:10

Originally Posted by Phurrball

You can make what you like of the people involved, and I choose not to get into that debate, but the issue is more this:

This is a minister of the Crown who has just made a legal decision based on consulting a website. At least it was the Privacy Commissioner's rather than Wikipedia, but that's not the point.

I'm sure there are teams of experts she could have consulted with a quick phone call.

Maybe she's putting her side of the story, maybe it's fair enough, maybe not, but it beggars belief that she just went ahead and did this with no advice.

It might not be so amusing or appropriate in another context.

Epic procedural fail. The Privacy Commission will rightly spank her for this.

Full story at : NZ Herald website.

Sometimes to get the job done, and achieve a reasonable result, you can't start by talking to your lawyers. The minister took a big risk, but got the job done.

**Hitcher** · 28th July 2009, 22:26

Originally Posted by ynot slow

Hate to say but how many would be happy with any politician giving out your own private business to all and sundry, which is what happened.But also why should people get hammered by an MP for speaking out.

We have privacy laws for that privacy of my personal property.

And the Greens getting in on it on TV just for their gain is a piss off.

Too many people can get away with a one-sided attack because they know that government organisations and other faceless bureaucracies like banks and insurance companies won't respond to allegations they make.

Like Minister Bennett, I believe that if anybody puts their personal circumstances into the public arena, they have forfeited any "privacy" rights they may have around the issue in question.

If you throw shit, you should expect to have shit thrown back at you. Poor fool you if any sticks.

If you let a political party parade you around for their opportunistic gain, you should expect to get it back in spades.

**marty** · 28th July 2009, 22:42

All this information is available to anyone anyway - I'd be surprised if Ms Bennett got it right - she is probably shy of the true weekly total by a few cash jobs/trademe sales worth.....

**Emlyn** · 28th July 2009, 22:48

I don't know all the details here.. and perhaps this is completely off topic but.. I moved away from a relatively high salary ( for a female, with no formal education) to study at university.
As a solo mum I now recieve a DPB.. and am not proud of it.. but its just while I study full time to get my degree as I have high asperations for the future.. which is definately another thread!
My point though is this.. WINZ paid my training for this year at Uni, cool.. the benefit I recieve is difficult to live on.. if you intend having any spending for 'social life' as it should be and certainly would be impossible to pay for tuition.. so I got a job.. 15 hours a week, at the Uni where I am studying... thing is.. they took so much of my benefit away that I am only better off by $50 per week (after secondary tax) so considering opportunity cost ( ie study time, time with my children and travel time).. and that I am no longer entitled to assistance with vehicle running costs etc that I would be as a 'full beneficiary' it has to be weighed up. What happened to encouraging beneficiaries to get out there and have a go??
If I have to get a student loan, and have a debt to pay at the end, fine.. but dont make it unattractive to work!! That is madness... it should be rewarded not frowned upon

Just my 2cents

Cheers
Em

**Headbanger** · 28th July 2009, 22:54

Originally Posted by Emlyn

I don't know all the details here.. and perhaps this is completely off topic but.. I moved away from a relatively high salary ( for a female, with no formal education) to study at university.

Lets see, You made the choice to quit your job...

And now you want to receive the benefit and earn a wage?..all the while getting a university education at the cost of the taxpayer?

Fuck me, I should be doing that shit. Its a win,win,win.

**The Pastor** · 29th July 2009, 00:01

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Is that the same chick who received 10 grand to start a cleaning business?

I could start a cleaning business for $200, and thats including a cooked breakfast.

that'd be a really cheap company car, vaccume cleaner and cleaning products... and i'd hate to see where you'd get your brakefast stuff from!

**Headbanger** · 29th July 2009, 00:08

Originally Posted by renegade master

that'd be a really cheap company car, vaccume cleaner and cleaning products... and i'd hate to see where you'd get your brakefast stuff from!

Already own all required items, That leaves $180 for ads in the local rag, and $20 for breakfast.

Funny enough when were broke in Sydney my wife went and done domestic cleaning jobs, she took the bus and the clients provided the cleaning products.

**buffstar** · 29th July 2009, 08:46

I dont know what other KB'ers think about this maggoty wench announcing the weekly benefit rate of two ladies on the DPB but I think its f***ed!!!! How bloody rude, and what bad form. Im sure there will be a bit of beneficiary bashing started up here, but thats not really the point IMO. I have experienced both sides of the fence, I was on the DPB 6-7 years ago, and then got a job working for WINZ on the phone lines for 2 odd years.
When I was on the benefit it was a real struggle, and I made use of the Training Incentive Allowance........and its not a case of they give you extra money each week for being a good little solo mother trying to better yourself........ it pays for your fees, books etc and subsidises your childcare-not to mention you have to jump thru rings to get it.
So, because these two women have publicly objected to it being scrapped - the bitch has revealed their private information - surely that is abuse of power - well I think it is, and I'm disgusted this motherfucker calls herself a westie - It almost makes me embarrased to be one.........