Man down, man down... chappy's report

[neil_cb125t]

ill add more sarcasim next time......

whats happend to you matey??

why not other people in postiesw have them? Seriously well done though neil hope the rest of the season goes well for you and youre bro.

[Little Smurf]

Hey Neil, Good on you for getting back out there, but it has to be said.......you a Kawa rider it had to be done I think it happened to the best of us that weekend, good to see the road to recovery is quick see you on 22nd

[zxr400#150]

ill add more sarcasim next time......

whats happend to you matey??

I belive his other half has twisted his arm into going over to S/Africa. Good excuse!!

Cheers Chet, hopefully see you out racing again doing a full season nxt year!

[CHET]

I belive his other half has twisted his arm into going over to S/Africa. Good excuse!!

Cheers Chet, hopefully see you out racing again doing a full season nxt year!

Yip going on a holiday so i will miss a few rounds but i should be back next year, im trying to convince the bettr half that we should look at a 6hundy but i ve got a long way to go.

[Billy]

My tail make me go faster than sitting on tyre.
Tell them you cant ride it backwards and the only aero dynamic spoiler you have is Mossy trying to keep up.
I think there is a few bikes that have questional mods.Its hard when they designed posty junior to take onboard the older f3 bikes which had no limits on them prior.

I think youll find the fact is PRE 89 was introduced as a forgotten era class and unfortunately when the Vic club started running it,they werent as strict on the rules as the NZPCRA are.What Warren is doing now is policing the rules as the post classic register do and beleive it or not,Hes doing you guys a favour cause if you turn up at the GP with late model bodywork,The chanaes are pretty high youre gonna get sent home without racing.The posties register are pretty serious about keeping the bikes within the era they are entered for

[Billy]

I have it in black and white on the time sheets bro.

I dont think Cooky was seriously denigrating Neil,He probably doesnt realize it was a winter series lap record.He probably confused it with the official Lap record which is a mid 1.59 set by Rodney Oconnor and Nathan Spargo in the mid nineties,Interestingly Ernie Cudby recorded a 2 min flat lap during that race and only finished 4th or 5th.Of course the extention was in a LOT better condition in those days and full credit too Neil the times he was achieving were bloody fast

[svr]

I dont think Cooky was seriously denigrating Neil,He probably doesnt realize it was a winter series lap record.He probably confused it with the official Lap record which is a mid 1.59 set by Rodney Oconnor and Nathan Spargo in the mid nineties,Interestingly Ernie Cudby recorded a 2 min flat lap during that race and only finished 4th or 5th.Of course the extention was in a LOT better condition in those days and full credit too Neil the times he was achieving were bloody fast

Maybe I was
I remember seeing that race. That Duc supermono would still be competitive I reckon.

[neil_cb125t]

hmmm i heard you had a low budget this year.... 600 is only going to be worse!!

my thing is chewing tyres out like a fat girl in a muffin shop!!

Yip going on a holiday so i will miss a few rounds but i should be back next year, im trying to convince the bettr half that we should look at a 6hundy but i ve got a long way to go.

[scracha]

my thing is chewing tyres out like a fat girl in a muffin shop!!

sorry...I misread that. I just saw the words fat girl, chewing and muffin.

Does that mean my sexy hurricane bodywork has to go? Oh woesmoi

[roadracingoldfart]

I have an opinion on the type of fairing used in P/C racing , particulaly pre 89s.
if you look at MNZ rules in the "m/cycle technical section it has a paragraph on fairings and makes a cross referance to "classics "under the "classic catagory" specifically .

heres my take on it.
if a bike from the era had no fairing then the one chosen to be fitted for racing was to be of similar to what was available in the day . Ok , does that mean they all have to be slab sided blocks of shit ? or is it just the basic design of fairing has to be similar to design for the day ? or , does it mean you have to use only original fairings ?
In that case does that also mean a bike built without a fairing when launched can not use a fairing at all and must use the practically unsafe bits of plywood for a number board?
It seems the main contention here is the tailpiece , the only MNZ rule i can find is to stipulate the distance it is allowed to protrude past the rear wheel . It does not say there is a limit on how modern it can look . Looks aside , if the tailpiece is similar to any other on any bike , where is the cut off in shape going to come from. Im sure Fritz Egli didnt have any slab sided shitters on his ass now did he ? .
I believe the regs should be made to cover advantages in aerodynamics of the actual fairing and not on the tailpiece , it has no bearing on the aerodynamices at all .
This is surely a petty argument.

[Billy]

I have an opinion on the type of fairing used in P/C racing , particulaly pre 89s.
if you look at MNZ rules in the "m/cycle technical section it has a paragraph on fairings and makes a cross referance to "classics "under the "classic catagory" specifically .

heres my take on it.
if a bike from the era had no fairing then the one chosen to be fitted for racing was to be of similar to what was available in the day . Ok , does that mean they all have to be slab sided blocks of shit ? or is it just the basic design of fairing has to be similar to design for the day ? or , does it mean you have to use only original fairings ?
In that case does that also mean a bike built without a fairing when launched can not use a fairing at all and must use the practically unsafe bits of plywood for a number board?
It seems the main contention here is the tailpiece , the only MNZ rule i can find is to stipulate the distance it is allowed to protrude past the rear wheel . It does not say there is a limit on how modern it can look . Looks aside , if the tailpiece is similar to any other on any bike , where is the cut off in shape going to come from. Im sure Fritz Egli didnt have any slab sided shitters on his ass now did he ? .
I believe the regs should be made to cover advantages in aerodynamics of the actual fairing and not on the tailpiece , it has no bearing on the aerodynamices at all .
This is surely a petty argument.

All of the above is good argument.However the idea I believe is to keep the bikes looking like they did in the era and beleive me I have had and know others who also have some interesting conversations with the powers that be at the NZPCRA and have found some of their reasoning too be nonsensical,But they make the rules for post classic and thats final.If you think you can sway them,Then give them a call and discuss it GOOD LUCK!!

[nzkr1]

Looks like we are getting off the subject again. I must admit when I read the rules last I remember something about the fairing be of era the bike was manufactured.

Great report Neil good to see you stick it to those SV650's, go Kawasaki. See you at the next round. I'll be there continuing the under dog status on the KR1.

[CHET]

hmmm i heard you had a low budget this year.... 600 is only going to be worse!!

my thing is chewing tyres out like a fat girl in a muffin shop!!

yeah i know its more wishfull thinking than anything else,but you gotta love a tryer.Ill have to catch up with you sometime and talk about what youve done to make yours so fast i might have to do the same with mine.

p.s. i think the whole tailpiece thing sounds pretty petty too, youn cant tell me theres any benefit other than more/less signage room for the sponsors.

[Billy]

p.s. i think the whole tailpiece thing sounds pretty petty too, youn cant tell me theres any benefit other than more/less signage room for the sponsors.

This would be a complete misinterpretation of the issue!Who said it was an advantage??If or when you get round to reading the rulebook(Which you should have done before going racing,NOT 2 years after)You will see the issue is a ZXR400H was not available in 1989 with a 2000 and something tailpeice for reasons Im sure you can figure out,Therefore it cannot be a true representation of the era as is required.The rules are the rules!

[CHET]

This would be a complete misinterpretation of the issue!Who said it was an advantage??If or when you get round to reading the rulebook(Which you should have done before going racing,NOT 2 years after)You will see the issue is a ZXR400H was not available in 1989 with a 2000 and something tailpeice for reasons Im sure you can figure out,Therefore it cannot be a true representation of the era as is required.The rules are the rules!

I dont understand are you attacking me because i have an opinion?