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    Help please.....fitting an alarm

    hi

    ive just bought a brand new alarm from trade me for me bike.

    the dodgy translation from chinese leaves somthing to be desired

    i can follow all of the instructions apart from

    flamout to engine........wire goes to?
    flameout to lock .............wire goes to?

    does anyone know what this means?
    ive been trawling the net to find the answers and have found a wiring diagram in english, but the terms 'flameout to engine', and,'flameout to lock', are not used.

    i have contacted the seller and asked them to explain this 'easy to install diy alarm'

    help please?

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    Is there no wiring diagram?
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    What are the colours of these 2 wires, they are usualy colour coded the same, i'm guessing they are either orange grey or pink

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    thanks guys

    yeah, there is a wiring diagram

    translation is shocking though

    the diagram is as follows

    red- +tve battery
    orange - ACC(i pressume there is an accesories terminal on the fusebox?
    yellow -direction light
    yellow - direction light. do these go to the direction light fuse box/connector or straight to the actual indicator input signals themselves and connect this wire to the 1 on the bike?
    black - battery -tve terminal

    then these 2..........

    pink to flameout lock
    gray to flameout engine.........???

    is flameout engine cut out/kill switch?

    if so, what is flameout lock/engine?

    help?????????????

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    I suggest but am not certain, that lock is key lock and engine is kill switch. If you haven't got it sorted by tomorrow, give Steve a ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    thanks guys

    yeah, there is a wiring diagram

    translation is shocking though

    the diagram is as follows

    red- +tve battery
    orange - ACC(i pressume there is an accesories terminal on the fusebox?
    yellow -direction light
    yellow - direction light. do these go to the direction light fuse box/connector or straight to the actual indicator input signals themselves and connect this wire to the 1 on the bike?
    black - battery -tve terminal

    then these 2..........

    pink to flameout lock
    gray to flameout engine.........???

    is flameout engine cut out/kill switch?

    if so, what is flameout lock/engine?

    help?????????????
    They'll be the immobiliser relay terminals then. You need to cut the ignition wire on the junction box and put each side of the cut to the seperate terminals - either way around will work - it's only an open circuit relay to kill the ignition.

    Might I suggest you make up an immobiliser junction that can be easily bypassed by you with a keypiece in case of a fault. Carry the keypiece on your person.
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    thanks for that.

    so if i understand this correctly, as long as the gray / pink cables are conected to the terminals that the ignition wire goes to on the fusebox/relay, that will be fine?

    can you explain what yoiu mean by a keypiece please?

    cheers

    lee

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    eek reminds me of a cold beverage that i was drinking the other day,

    "MUCH FRUITY" with future!

    lol what a name, youd think they would employ people to make sure all english translations are done correctly,

    hope u get it sorted


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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    so if i understand this correctly, as long as the gray / pink cables are conected to the terminals that the ignition wire goes to on the fusebox/relay, that will be fine?
    You cut the ignition power wire back from where it enters the junction/fuse box. On one end of the cut piece you attach the pink. On the other end you attach the grey.

    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    can you explain what yoiu mean by a keypiece please?
    A piece you can plug in after detaching the immobiliser wires that restores it to the condition it was in before the immobiliser was installed. It's basically a terminal jumper. I would use a couple of these 2-way connectors . Put a male part on the immobiliser and a female part on the ignition wire you cut. Then using the second one's male part join the terminals in the back and when you plug it in instead of the immobiliser it will join the ignition wire you cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    flamout to engine........wire goes to?
    flameout to lock .............wire goes to?

    does anyone know what this means?
    flame out engine/lock what happens inside the engine (combustion) flame

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    thats what i thought, but where do the wires go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    thats what i thought, but where do the wires go?
    At the risk or re-repeating myself...

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    You cut the ignition power wire back from where it enters the junction/fuse box. On one end of the cut piece you attach the pink. On the other end you attach the grey.
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    Oh and one more thing. Don't connect anything with those fucking useless crimp on bullet or spade connectors unless you want trouble. Solder and heat shrink all joints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    Don't connect anything with those fucking useless crimp on bullet or spade connectors unless you want trouble. Solder and heat shrink all joints.
    On what basis do you make this statement?

    There are a number of problems with soldered joints on automotive gear. Lack of strain relief is the main one, and corrosion is another.

    For years I have repaired countless things with crimp terminals, some of them previously soldered together, and never had a problem with it.

    Perhaps you are using a cheap stamped-steel crimping tool?

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