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    This bit is interesting:

    Cycles, motor cycles and buses are entitled to use bus lanes and therefore can take advantage of any bus pre-emption signals or B phase signals.

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    So which conflicting message has the right of weight?

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    Well, its safer to listen to the Council (ie, our physical safety)

    ... but, if Council does not have jurisdiction over the lights etc, then their "law" isn't worth the space on the website...

    Wouldn't it make a great article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Wouldn't it make a great article?
    For Reader's Digest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    For Reader's Digest?
    They ride motorbikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Well, its safer to listen to the Council (ie, our physical safety)

    ... but, if Council does not have jurisdiction over the lights etc, then their "law" isn't worth the space on the website...

    Wouldn't it make a great article?
    I have an idea.
    Why not just check for cops and if there are none around just go on the B light?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    That is now clarified in the road code.
    Very interesting, I had not kept up with that development. What have they stated? (presumably negative for bikes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Very interesting, I had not kept up with that development. What have they stated? (presumably negative for bikes)
    I was of referring to the "debate on "Specifically Excluded" signage... " comment.
    The signage can be seen here. The word ONLY makes for a specific exclusion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    I was of referring to the "debate on "Specifically Excluded" signage... " comment.
    The signage can be seen here. The word ONLY makes for a specific exclusion.
    OK. Cheers for the clarification!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I can skim read , though it appears the effictiveness is somewhat questionable
    Dude that answer was to inteleg...inttell....SMART for you to claim Bogan for a username-

    Downgrade the responses man. or you'll ruin the good Bogan reputation we spent years creating!


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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    This doesn't appear to be the Auckland Region Council by looking at the map. Remember Auckland is made up of (is it?) 5 separate cities that are co-located.

    That being the case, the rules quoted only apply to central Auckland.
    Yet the more evidence that we really need the SuperCity and John Banks as it's SuperMayor.
    I'll be voting this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Yet the more evidence that we really need the SuperCity and John Banks as it's SuperMayor.
    I'll be voting this time.
    I would be strongly in favour of a single set of rules. How crazy can it be that you can cross a bridge or intersection, and suddenly where you can ride changes.

    And the worst bit is the rules are so murky. It's difficult to tell which rule applies where.

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    For anyone that is a sad enough bastard to be interested (i.e. moi), here is the relevant section of the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427).

    No mention of any vehicle other than a bus being able to proceed on a B signal.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
    That is now clarified in the road code.
    The Road Code doesn't count for shit - it's a guide. The Acts and Regulations are what matters.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    For anyone that is a sad enough bastard to be interested (i.e. moi), here is the relevant section of the Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004 (SR 2004/427).

    No mention of any vehicle other than a bus being able to proceed on a B signal.



    The Road Code doesn't count for shit - it's a guide. The Acts and Regulations are what matters.
    Does a council have the ability to create by-laws to permit vehicles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Does a council have the ability to create by-laws to permit vehicles?
    No. The regulations made by the NZTA (formerly LTSA) under powers granted them by the Land Transport Act 1998 are the last word. Local road controlling authorities may only, by resolution, act within those regulations.

    Here is the the latest Auckland City Council - Bylaw No. 25 - Traffic (2006) as at 23 April 2009.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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