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    Thumbs down Promoters percentages?

    Well it seems this latest Telethon for Kids Can Do Anything Trust (or whatever they call them selves officially) has fallen foul of the trusty expenses before donation scam.

    Forgive the inaccurate quoting of figures here but..

    Of the nearly two million dollars rasied, less than $400K will go to the charity!

    Yes folks, for those of you that donated that is the reality.

    Apparently it is acceptable to "factor in a value" for the voluntary hours given and deduct your percentage out of that inflated value. Now fair enough if you actually had to pay talent to appear, but to put a value on the voluntary hours given in good faith for the cause is disgraceful!

    Bet "Kids Can" are kicking themselves for not reading the fine print in the contract, and SHAME on the promoter.

    "Thank you very much for your kind donation. But how much of it will actually reach the children? Only 28% according to Kidscan's financial records"

    http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/tonight-2908843
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    That's disgusting.
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    It's normal, they ALL do it.

    Then the Kids Can "charity" will subsume 80-90% of the remaining takings into "administration" and about $20k will actually be used to buy stuff for kids whose parents smoke and drink and gamble rather than look after their kids.

    I keep saying it, but it isn't going in. People suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    It's normal, they ALL do it.

    Then the Kids Can "charity" will subsume 80-90% of the remaining takings into "administration" and about $20k will actually be used to buy stuff for kids whose parents smoke and drink and gamble rather than look after their kids.

    I keep saying it, but it isn't going in. People suck.
    Sadly, I agree. What a crock!
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    Back in school I used to work in door to door sales. Selling books, pens and other odds and ends with some cancer society logos on it - part of the proceeds would go to charity.

    Out of a $2 pen about 5c would go to charity - the rest went towards paying company overheads, my commission and my boss's cut.

    It's just business.

    "Proceeds to charity" here is the equivalent of the sexy girl you see in most ads promoting whatever they're promoting. It's just window dressing designed to get you to buy/donate/enter the shop.

    Yeah - James - People Suck....

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    This situation might be a crock, if the facts are correct, but I'm sure that's not always the case of all Charities.
    My charity runs on the sniff of an oily rag literally LOL. But I'm very lucky many contribute their skills.
    Promoting is a very very costly business.

    Many Charities/Trusts do run at a loss, and manage to contribute back 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.W View Post
    This situation might be a crock, if the facts are correct, but I'm sure that's not always the case of all Charities.
    My charity runs on the sniff of an oily rag literally LOL. But I'm very lucky many contribute their skills.
    Promoting is a very very costly business.

    Many Charities/Trusts do run at a loss, and manage to contribute back 100%
    Hey, I'm thankful some one is doing at least something...

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    It's not just Kids Can. Many other charities absorb the bulk of people's donations to spend on staff salaries, advertising and PR consultants, etc.

    People don't want to know the truth, they just want to feel good about giving.

    "Give a man a fish and it will feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and it will feed him for a lifetime."

    Most "aid" is about giving people stuff. Unless they can learn to do things for themselves all that will ever do is make them dependent on aid. Where's the happy ending from that scenario?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justsomeguy View Post
    "Proceeds to charity" here is the equivalent of the sexy girl you see in most ads promoting whatever they're promoting. It's just window dressing designed to get you to buy/donate/enter the shop.

    Yeah - James - People Suck....
    See, this is where I seriously get pissed off! I dont mean just a little bit either, I mean seriously.

    There are a few of us on here, that are planning, nay, well on the way to getting shit sorted, to do something to raise an enormous (hopefully) amount of money for a very worthy cause. We are restricted by their policy from using their logo unless we are giving 100% of the money raised, after expenses of course, to them. We are honest, and wont massage any cost to include our TIME or anything else. This will simply be pay the man, and give the rest.

    This sort of publicity is not good for those of us that genuinely want to raise money (even if it costs us a bit in the process) for charities that are really worthy.
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    It sucks to us plebs, but those on the bean counting side dont see it this way.

    I blame Rodger Douglas he took away our compassion, when he introduced us to "User pays"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    See, this is where I seriously get pissed off! I dont mean just a little bit either, I mean seriously.

    There are a few of us on here, that are planning, nay, well on the way to getting shit sorted, to do something to raise an enormous (hopefully) amount of money for a very worthy cause. We are restricted by their policy from using their logo unless we are giving 100% of the money raised, after expenses of course, to them. We are honest, and wont massage any cost to include our TIME or anything else. This will simply be pay the man, and give the rest.

    This sort of publicity is not good for those of us that genuinely want to raise money (even if it costs us a bit in the process) for charities that are really worthy.
    I was referring specifically to the company I worked for where "proceeds to charity" was one of the "feel good" things we used to make people part with their money.

    The company operated as a business created for the purposes of making a profit - not a "non-profit". It donated only a small part of the proceeds to charity.

    What you are doing seems a lot nobler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    "Give a man a fish and it will feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and it will feed him for a lifetime."

    I totally support and agree with what you just said.

    How do we then convince people that are smart and thinking to support a charity when the people attempting to raise some money are an unknown quantity? Seems there are a huge number of gullible folk out there, who may or may not be educated as a result of this news, they should still be sweet as for a tap eh?

    What would convince you to fork out some money, say $20 to support a worthy cause? Would a statement saying $x of this will go towards the charity we are supporting help?
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    Remember Corso? They had a nearly100% expenses rate! They were exposed IIRC and shut shop. It appears that these charities are set up as a business for making money and the charity is there only to generate their income. There is nothing noble in this, in my opinion. Listen to any high flying wealthy businessman like Mad Butcher, Michael Hill or Suzanne Paul and they will tell you that to be successful you should give 10% of your income to charity regardless, as it will come back to you in other ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Would a statement saying $x of this will go towards the charity we are supporting help?
    Yes. Complete transparency. But most reasonable people realise everyone has to eat too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Seems there are a huge number of gullible folk out there, ?
    I agree.
    However, it is interesting to note that gullible is not in fact a proper word and does not appear in the dictionary!
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