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    Quote Originally Posted by wysper View Post
    I agree.
    I donate in two ways.
    I give blood and I give to the local schools, sports teams etc who come round selling raffle tickets, sausage sizzles etc. Or donate our toys we don't use to kids hospitals, clothes and house stuff to womans refuge etc.

    I have no faith in the 'big' charities. World Vision, UNICEF etc. Too much of your money goes to making them richer. Even worse, your money goes off shore when our own people need help.
    exactly. id like to give blood, but im needle phobic, lol. dads been donating for decades though. like beggers on the street. dont give them coins, cos itll be spent at the nearest pub. buy them a sandwich instead.

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    Ha, non-profit charities, all that means is that they don't have any money left after taking their cut and passing what's left on to the charity... I gave up donating (still do blood and have done some humanitarian work) once one of the main Cancer foundations in the UK was blown open and it turned out that about 11% (millions of pounds) was actually getting used for research...

    To mean charity means doing something for others for free, be it giving them clothes, gifts, knowledge etc... but it should be FREE... There are plenty of rich business bastards out there that could turn their skills to running and organising charities, but how many do it?

    It goes beyond disgusting and should be carry one of the most hefty punishments you can give out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    What would convince you to fork out some money, say $20 to support a worthy cause? Would a statement saying $x of this will go towards the charity we are supporting help?
    I wouldn't be happy with a statement, more I would prefer something contractual, something along the lines of "If we don't give 90% of the donations to the Charity we support. We will forfeit our lives"... Failing that, unless i hand my donation (in whatever form it takes) over personally, I just won't give any more... As much as every little helps, someones getting rich for no reason other than they are a CEO!
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    Can't donate blood as chemo abuse prevents me,had donated since I was 18yrs,mostly for free time off work(our company of 100 plus at time was asked if we would have volunteers)and bickies lol.Came back to me when I needed transfusion during surgery 8 units or so urgently,needles don't worry me and the only thing about having chemo is I can't donate blood again.

    I liked the LAF (Lance Armstrong Foundation)idea,he got Nike to sponsor the yellow wrist bands so the costs were nil,so when people buy/bought them the $1.00 each cost went to research,not postage,admin costs.But it pissed me off when people bought say 1000 for $1000US and sold them on trade me for upwards of $10.00 each,purely as their own cash scheme.When people would ask how much is going to cancer nz,none and replies were from piss off tosser,it's a free enterprise for my business,get a life,was much like KB at times.
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    Hmmm, other charities with genuine admin costings I can some-what understand.

    This however is disgusting bullshit.

    A one off special event like this in my opinion, deserves NO money paid for time or appearances, that is absolute bullshit and a cop-out. Period.

    The whole idea is that you volunteer your time for free, no matter who you are, and all proceeds go to the cause, otherwise it now takes on the stigma it now has, and next time, I won't be running all through the night, and collecting any money in my own time, which by the way was my own and not company time.

    Not impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
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    Charitys.. you got to ask yourself why fookin bother. I never once paid a penny to any charity, other than tax, ACC and GST.

    Do you think i got any charity for the 2 years i was sick, from charitys or those coonts that take my tax, GST or ACC..???!

    in the great old kiwi tradition.. YEAH NAH !



    as for this bunch.. they should be shot


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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer View Post
    Sex trade is legal over here Graham


    Charitys.. you got to ask yourself why fookin bother. I never once paid a penny to any charity, other than tax, ACC and GST.

    Do you think i got any charity for the 2 years i was sick, from charitys or those coonts that take my tax, GST or ACC..???!

    in the great old kiwi tradition.. YEAH NAH !



    as for this bunch.. they should be shot
    Why didn't anyone tell me.....You were sick Boomer...you were not a Charity case...sorry to be honest...you still got help and can now enjoy life that has been given to you.That is why I do things rather than give money...

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    See these attitudes really bring me down. If I or a bunch of others together decide to raise money for a charity would you not support us, even though you know that 100% of the funds raised would be given to the charity?
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Why didn't anyone tell me.....You were sick Boomer...you were not a Charity case...sorry to be honest...you still got help and can now enjoy life that has been given to you.That is why I do things rather than give money...

    'cos my names not Rangi?

    And mum.. nah sorry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer View Post
    'cos my names not Rangi?

    And mum.. nah sorry.
    No dont be, it is interesting to hear this sort of thing. I must really live in a bubble I think. I am very selective about what charities I support, I would no more give to World Vision than wheelie the length of the front straight at Taupo. I do however strongly support Westpac Rescue Helicopter, and Hospice. While both do have administration expenses to be met, I have, or someone close to me has had the support of these 2 organisations. They are not funded adequately and have to fundraise to survive. I have no problem supporting them.
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    Nonono,

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    I haven't bumped into the charity the isn't essentially self serving yet. There are two kinds of charities. Moneymaking enterprises and coffee morning groups for mental cases who have nothing wrong with them but have been forced by circumstance to care for someone who does. The coffee morning groups are usually formed because the charity that is supposed to help them is too busy making money to pay the CEO and COO and CFO bonuses at Christmas time.

    Things like Rescue Helicopters, St John's Ambulance and Hospices get taken for granted. You don't think of them until you need them, and then when they get it wrong you bag them publicy. It's how the world works.

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    I have a quite different understanding of the TVNZ-led assault on KidsCan yesterday. I can't be arsed looking for links, merely typing this is enough effort for today.

    As I understand it, the ~$2.0M in Vs ~$0.4M to the actual cause was from the companies full 2008 financials, nothing to do with the Telethon money. The representative from KidsCan said on Close Up that they had pre-paid or pre-arranged almost everything required for the Telethon and expect that ~80% of that ~$2.0M to go straight to the kids.

    I was pretty sceptical when the story broke myself. Then I thought about all the PR and marketing they would have had to have achieved to get where they are. I understand they're a young "charity", yet have managed to ressurect the Telethon thing in N.Z, how long did that take? (many would say not long enough). They also have the Official New Zealand Oval-Shaped Ball Sport Team(TM) onboard and have a lot of Kiwi companies doing stuff for free. This stuff doesn't happen without a lot of time and effort.

    I didn't give them $1, or 10 cents for that matter. I do think though, that they deserve some recognition for the fact that they are out there providing food to at least some hungry Kiwi kids, something no other fooker seems to be doing!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    No dont be, it is interesting to hear this sort of thing. I must really live in a bubble I think. I am very selective about what charities I support, I would no more give to World Vision than wheelie the length of the front straight at Taupo. I do however strongly support Westpac Rescue Helicopter, and Hospice. While both do have administration expenses to be met, I have, or someone close to me has had the support of these 2 organisations. They are not funded adequately and have to fundraise to survive. I have no problem supporting them.

    These organisations do provide a 'service' however they shoudl be funded through government grants and payouts from lotto etc... where charities PROVE they give back.

    I/we pay enough tax's for this to be a very real/viable solution.

    Asking for money is paramount to begging in my books, but im a yorkshire boy



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    Wow, I thought the people who did the show "donated" their time like those who donated their cash. That's reals bad.

    Would be interesting to know how much of the loot from the prior telethon actually went to charity.

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