Key makes "peace" with actress

**Shadows** · 16th August 2009, 23:18

Originally Posted by jimjim

is she

Well having not seen the movie I'm fucked if I know really.

**Winston001** · 17th August 2009, 09:23

Originally Posted by vifferman

I believe that climate change is real: there have been HUGE climate changes throughout the Earth's history.

And therefore it is sensible to take precautions - build above sea-level, protect our fresh water, keep toxins out of soil.

.....we know too little about weather and climate to postulate a very simple theory that it's all due to the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, and that that is due mainly to human activities.

Nothing simple about anthropomorphic global warming. Its extremely complex and deals with carbon isotopes and compounds formed in air and water. Furthermore the science involves both organic and inorganic carbon which requires commentators to understand some chemistry. Easier to simply say it isn't happening......

However the way we are treating our planet isn't terribly nice and we could do more betterer, and if nothing else, all the bullshit that people are buying into, in typical sheep-lemming fashion means that we are starting to address some of the naughty habits we have.

Agreed. The man-made GW dispute is irrelevant if we simply see we are polluting the planet. A simple example - acidification of the ocean which is caused by dissolved CO2. This is happening and measurable. Shell-fish can't make shells in acid.

Interesting that the global climate change industry has become very profitable for many people...

I keep coming across this sort of thing. I do not know one single person locally who will make money from this "industry". There are always a few people who make money out of potential disaster - but not millions of people, and certainly not enough to make politicians risk losing votes. Raising taxes, paying for carbon tonnes, none of this gets votes.

Arguably real estate agents stand to make money by selling high and dry property as buyers flee coasts - are they part of the "industry"? Undertakers will thrive too. None of this equals a conspiracy.

**Swoop** · 17th August 2009, 09:26

Originally Posted by James Deuce

Yet no one takes him seriously when he suggests that we simply don't have enough data to predict weather 48 hours hence, let alone long reaching climactic change

Quite true. We see the efforts of the "professional" weather people every night at the end of the news. Short term forecasting is "tricky", but at least a few "experts" know everything about the long term future of the planet.

I would really like to see Greenpeace putting their efforts into the packaging industry, and working on cutting back the copious amounts of over-packaging that we consumers are subject to.
The supermarket plastic carrier bag is a mere drop in the ocean, in comparison.

Originally Posted by vifferman

Interesting that the global climate change industry has become very profitable for many people...

Global warming = Global taxing.
There are a lot of people making a shitload of $$$'s from this con-job.