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    See below.........

    Quote Originally Posted by RDjase View Post
    I didnt go searching for a fairing rule to cause trouble Quickbuck, i was going thru the MNZ and NZPCRA rules to find out about the repower/mods I want to do to either my TZR or RGV and figure out what is the best option for the RZ engine


    Sweet As...

    I was at manfeild yesterday and went over to your pits twice during the day to say hi and it must have been when the F3 race was on as neils bike wasnt there,

    Yup.. Wpould have been holding the pit board out on the wall...

    Im not trying to make trouble at all, Neil does well because of a well setup bike and good riding, not the plastic surround it . Post classic racing is great fun ,
    [I]Agreed... and a darn good team behind him [/I]

    Heres some fairings for you,


    Might Give Glen a call... Very Happy with my CBR replicas....

    A mate that has a 89 ZXR said they are $480 for brand new fairings, dont know if its from the same place or when he got them , i can find out if you want ,

    What happened to neils bike yesterday? he came up next to me after the hairpin in the warm up lap and it lost power. Bummer about that, good big feild yesterday too, It will be the 1st and last time i have been in front on him

    You said it! haven't worked out why yet... but ran out of electrickery! I think I know though... Will find out later.


    No, I have never tried to buy ZXR or any fairings before, I have owned alot
    of bikes of the years and The RGV is the 1st one with fairings, The TZR has got a few bits of fairing but i wont use any on it, I like naked bikes

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    Lost power , bugger
    Bloody fast for an electric bike You could try running it on petrol

    But seriously, i saw him leaning on the fence after the hairpin, would have been a very long race to watch from there, No doubt you will have it all sorted shortly
    C u at Round5

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    Yammagamma build.

    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    This is the grey bit cause one rule is original motor castings.RZ350 motor and castings by my interp means you are building rz350 therefore you must have rz forks and rz swingarm.the casting rule is strict and the fork rule is model specific and swingarm should be stock.How can it be within the rules.
    If you had 7/11 then you could claim that people raced 7/11 bikes in or before 89 which is likely that would make your bike a hybrid pre89 replica etc but I think you would struggle to find a rz350/rgv250 bike that raced in or before 1989.This is where it is up to the rider to prove that it complies.If you have doubt contact someone who can confirm it for you and let them know what you intend to do.
    Im no authority and what i see in a competition rule book is not what the next person will see but your build seems outside the rules as I read them.
    I found this topic because I searched for yamma gamma info, I'm building one for pre 89, the way i see the rules: as long as all the parts used are pre 89, then its legal, that includes fitting USD ZXR forks to the suzuki frame, running a 17"rear wheel (rgv's 18" std) and fitting the RZ motor. All the parts would have been available in pre 89, so no problem.

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    ....he he he...

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    Quote Originally Posted by santiago View Post
    I'm building one for pre 89, the way i see the rules: as long as all the parts used are pre 89, then its legal, that includes fitting USD ZXR forks to the suzuki frame, running a 17"rear wheel (rgv's 18" std) and fitting the RZ motor. All the parts would have been available in pre 89, so no problem.
    I would clarify that with the NZPCRA or you may find the way you see the rules isn't correct, I think you will have to prove that those bikes were made and raced using those components pre89

    Althoug if you don't intend to contest any NZPCRA meetings you might get away with it as the guys down here are a bit more lax on the interpetation of the rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by santiago View Post
    I found this topic because I searched for yamma gamma info, I'm building one for pre 89, the way i see the rules: as long as all the parts used are pre 89, then its legal, that includes fitting USD ZXR forks to the suzuki frame, running a 17"rear wheel (rgv's 18" std) and fitting the RZ motor. All the parts would have been available in pre 89, so no problem.
    As explained, the 89 ZXR400 wasnt available in NZ in 1989 so how do you think the front end would be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gav View Post
    As explained, the 89 ZXR400 wasnt available in NZ in 1989 so how do you think the front end would be?
    Does it state anywhere it has to be available in NZ? haven't bothered to much with pre89 rules but the pre82 just say it has to be manufactured prior to end of Dec 82, nothing about being sold/available in any country

    Of course when you can show something like a RZ350 was made before the end of 82 then they get all funny about it and get the rules changed to exclude them

    25.1 Introduction:
    There shall be three groups of Post Class road racing machines:
    (A) Pre 72 which shall consist of machines manufactured after January 1st 1963 and before October 30th 1972.
    (B) Pre 82 which will consist of racing machines manufactured after the closing date of the Period 1972 class and before December 31st 1982.
    (C) Pre 89 which will consist of racing machines manufactured after the closing date of the period 1982 class and before December 31st 1989.


    Ah no you're fucked actually

    25.5.4 Forks
    Upside down forks are prohibited unless originally fitted to the bike model in the
    period. Forks must be period items. Internal spring and valving modifications are
    permitted.

    White Power and Ohlins had very limited supplies of USD forks available to special
    teams on their works or works issue motorcycles. These specific forks may be used if
    originally fitted to the bike in question (eg 888 Corsa Superbike). The onus of proof is
    on the rider.


    http://www.mnz.co.nz/download/2010_M...st_Classic.pdf
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    Cool, no further updates or contradictions, so it seems that later model fairings on top of period bikes is OK.
    So, a set of NXA fairings will be going on the NF5 RS250, sweet!!

    Anyone other than me see the foolishness in this attitude?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post
    Cool, no further updates or contradictions, so it seems that later model fairings on top of period bikes is OK.
    So, a set of NXA fairings will be going on the NF5 RS250, sweet!!

    Anyone other than me see the foolishness in this attitude?
    Im with you on that one, it seems that the rules dont seem to matter anymore, cant seem to figure out where the problem with reading the rules and adhering to them is so hard, seems that some people dont want to be fucked by the rules, I wonder if they play the rest of life like that....

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    Who'd do that?
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