Judge shocked at biker's bridge stunt - The Mormon's Bridge Video

[pritch]

No one was hurt, 15 pages of wasted text

And climbing

[Owl]

I guess we all have differing opinions and I've never really got a kick out of Carver's videos, but I must admit, I was silently cheering him on when I saw the bridge stunt. Surely there's got to be a little respect for those who take risks and push limits, even if they are sometimes illegal or "naughty"?

Years ago, I photographed a group of base-jumpers, illegally jumping from a Rangitikei viaduct. Pioneers of a sort, paving the way for far better and greater things to come. They made mistakes, one causing a near fatality the following week, but mistakes are a part of learning.

Here's a pic taken on that day. Interestingly, this "naughty" dude is now a highly respected police officer.

[avgas]

He did it.
He bragged about it on the net.
He should man up and take what's coming.

I completely agree - except for this circumstance.
If it was a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket, fine, even a loss of licence. That is reasonable.
But said Judge is quoted for being "Shocked" - this is no longer the law, this is personal perspective. She sounds like she wants to not only throw the book at him, but follow this with the phone book, an atlas and G-K of encyclopedia britannica. That is not only not fair - it is wrong, and a judge should know better.
Imagine what said Judge would do to ANY other biker who is placed in front of her - she is obviously biased. Bikers stole her baby or something.

[mister.koz]

I guess we all have differing opinions and I've never really got a kick out of Carver's videos, but I must admit, I was silently cheering him on when I saw the bridge stunt. Surely there's got to be a little respect for those who take risks and push limits, even if they are sometimes illegal or "naughty"?

Years ago, I photographed a group of base-jumpers, illegally jumping from a Rangitikei viaduct. Pioneers of a sort, paving the way for far better and greater things to come. They made mistakes, one causing a near fatality the following week, but mistakes are a part of learning.

Here's a pic taken on that day. Interestingly, this "naughty" dude is now a highly respected police officer.

Shit, i bet he clanks when he walks.... Thats impressive!

[trustme]

I completely agree - except for this circumstance.
If it was a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket, fine, even a loss of licence. That is reasonable.
But said Judge is quoted for being "Shocked" - this is no longer the law, this is personal perspective. She sounds like she wants to not only throw the book at him, but follow this with the phone book, an atlas and G-K of encyclopedia britannica. That is not only not fair - it is wrong, and a judge should know better.
Imagine what said Judge would do to ANY other biker who is placed in front of her - she is obviously biased. Bikers stole her baby or something.

Society has had a guts full of the boy racer types causing mayhem on our streets , killing & maiming themselves & other innocent bystanders with their exhibitions of bravado. I suspect that the beak ,not without good cause considers Carver to be little different, Carver stuck his jaw out said ' here give me your best shot ' The beak appears to be only too happy to oblige & intends to make an example of him . What is so jaw droppingly earth shattering about that.

[trustme]

Maybe they should stop whinging about having a job.

Would you want the job of fronting up to Carvers mum to tell her the he went off the side & they are searching the river for him
Would you want to be the ambo scraping him up off the footpath, or the fireman hosing away the blood.

It didn't happen , but all to often it does. Not jobs I would wish on my worst enemy.

[avgas]

What is so jaw droppingly earth shattering about that.

In the great words of the great KB public
"Who's next?"
I don't mind the law, but Judges are suppose to be the pinnicale of unbiased law. Their personal opinion does not count.
Even regardless of what the public think, they are not politicians, they are not marketers, their only responsibility to the public is to determine how guilty, and how much of the law they can apply.
He is not a person who rapes babys, strangles dogs or eats jews. He rode a motorbike is a situation where he could have died, but posed not harm to anyone else.
She is out to get him because of this? Not just deliver the law but 'get him'. Due to how 'shocked' she is.
Who's next?
Perhaps I am biased as I have delt with a similar judge in the past. I was hit by a car, my only fault was that I did not expect for him to hit me. I came out of hospital - to have the police (who were on my side) tell me that the driver who was charged with dangerous driving causing harm. However the judge said due to me being a motorcyclist - she was halving the fine, and halving the loss of license time. The cops were dumbstruck.

Mabey I should change my perspective about this - motorcylist are in the same basket as boy racers. If we get to court we should accept what ever the judge thinks we deserve. Who knows - mabey this will filter the true bikers from the chess club.

[avgas]

Would you want the job of fronting up to Carvers mum to tell her the he went off the side & they are searching the river for him
Would you want to be the ambo scraping him up off the footpath, or the fireman hosing away the blood.
It didn't happen , but all to often it does. Not jobs I would wish on my worst enemy.

Very true - and I have full respect for all including the cops.
But to sign up to this area of work and expect to never do this would be a bit naive don't you think.
I mean especially in the country where we have an unemployment benefit - you have to opt to be an ambu, firefighter or cop......so my hats off to them, as they have volunteered to try and save life, or declare death.

[trustme]

Very true - and I have full respect for all including the cops.
But to sign up to this area of work and expect to never do this would be a bit naive don't you think.
I mean especially in the country where we have an unemployment benefit - you have to opt to be an ambu, firefighter or cop......so my hats off to them, as they have volunteered to try and save life, or declare death.

Sure to a certain extent you are right it goes with the territory, does not make it right or acceptable though.
I can understand youe anger towards the judge in your case. I think there is a slight overreaction to this judge, although she clearly has young Carver in her sights, as she probably also would with someone clocked at high speed on the Coro Loop, or someone doing burn outs or wheelies or other dumb shit in a vehicle in a public place

[Oscar]

I completely agree - except for this circumstance.
If it was a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket, fine, even a loss of licence. That is reasonable.
But said Judge is quoted for being "Shocked" - this is no longer the law, this is personal perspective. She sounds like she wants to not only throw the book at him, but follow this with the phone book, an atlas and G-K of encyclopedia britannica. That is not only not fair - it is wrong, and a judge should know better.
Imagine what said Judge would do to ANY other biker who is placed in front of her - she is obviously biased. Bikers stole her baby or something.

Oh yeah, I agree entirely.
The fact the the ole fuddy duddy is shocked is neither here nor there - justice would be a smack on the pee-pee (slightly eye watering fine, say) to deter the other idjuts.

[LBD]

Dude your just wrong sorry, I got no other way to put it

You can't get away with making a comment like that without substantiating it....come on, explain why you think I am wrong....

[fozz rock]

he did it and didnt get hurt..........ok

he did it and gets hurt.........ok as ACC will look after him

ACC levies going up...........ok now more people can try it

its a win win right?????????????????????

[trustme]

It's a funny old world. We elect a government who says ' we are going to get tough on the law breaker' When the judiciary starts to reflect the very thing we have advocated we all go cry baby

There some pretty selective moralising going on, from both sides.

When does this shit fight finish in court so we can launch into the next 18 pages ???"

[LBD]

It's a funny old world. We elect a government who says ' we are going to get tough on the law breaker' When the judiciary starts to reflect the very thing we have advocated we all go cry baby

There some pretty selective moralising going on, from both sides.

When does this shit fight finish in court so we can launch into the next 18 pages ???"

Riding over a Bridge Arch as a challenge..."because it was there" ....is hardly a home invasion / bank robbery/ rape/ or violent crime, that requires getting tough on....

[trustme]

Riding over a Bridge Arch as a challenge..."because it was there" ....is hardly a home invasion / bank robbery/ rape/ or violent crime, that requires getting tough on....

So where & when do we get tough ???
As a society we gear everything to the lowest common denominator , we remove any discretion on the part of plod & the courts , hence !!!!!

We reap what we sew.