1.4 billion people live in poverty

**smoky** · 26th August 2009, 22:14

I do wonder some times how hypercritical it is to say you care about the planet and in your spare time you pollute it

But When it comes to poverty, if there's something I can do to help - why not

**jaymzw** · 26th August 2009, 22:20

Originally Posted by smoky

Our dairy industry is supporting wealthy dictatorships that steal from those who can't defend themselves and are now in poverty

Bullshit!

The NZ Dairy industry are supporting themselves. Dairy is our number one export, i dont care if some Malaysians lose their village because we are protecting it. If Fontera cant meet the World Price then the countries we sell to look elsewhere and we suffer as a whole. New Zealand is a price taker, we cannot make a difference in the world. However in saying that, if you and i can make a difference in your town and it doesn't cost a cent then why not.

EDIT: And name me a 'wealthy dictatorship'

**wbks** · 26th August 2009, 22:26

Originally Posted by smoky

I do wonder some times how hypercritical it is to say you care about the planet and in your spare time you pollute it

But When it comes to poverty, if there's something I can do to help - why not

I wasn't talking about pollution (although of course that counts), I was talking about more direct effects that harm people through the making and selling of oil and gas

**rainman** · 26th August 2009, 22:38

Originally Posted by carver

no one gives a shit.
capitalism leads to poverty

Fixed that for you.

Originally Posted by Muppet

Why don't you go to the USA and ask them for money?

I LOL'ed.

Originally Posted by Lurch

The greedy and the cruel rise to the top in such wastelands of human misery.

Hang on, I thought you were talking about the 3rd world...

**Dave Lobster** · 27th August 2009, 05:39

Originally Posted by carver

corruption leads to poverty

Originally Posted by ready4whatever

apparently 60 percent of black americans are below the poverty line

Originally Posted by Muppet

And while I'm at it, you are 100% correct, most of the money you send to "save Africa" goes into their governments coffers.

Originally Posted by Boob Johnson

A lack of money leads to poverty........

Letting/encouraging black people into positions of power is what leads to poverty.

**smoky** · 27th August 2009, 08:05

Is poverty a race issue

**James Deuce** · 27th August 2009, 08:07

Originally Posted by smoky

Is poverty a race issue

Yes. The MotoGP grids are shrinking.

**smoky** · 27th August 2009, 08:07

Originally Posted by jaymzw

i dont care if some Malaysians lose their village because we are protecting it. If Fontera cant meet the World Price then the countries we sell to look elsewhere and we suffer as a whole.

Yeah - I just don't want to be that kind of person thank you very much

**Big Dave** · 27th August 2009, 08:38

Forget the poor - let's spend a few more Trillion on weapons.

**davereid** · 27th August 2009, 08:52

The poor nations of the world generally enjoy corrupt leadership. No amount of welfare, trade, or exploitation of minerals will help, while politicians remain able to help themselves to the cream by force.

And our obsession with global warming will help make them even poorer.

If we choose to make carbon reductions of 40% as proposed by Greenpeace, palm oil will be the least of the third world problems.

We will buy their food so we can ferment it and burn it in our cars while oil sits in the ground.

We will hamstring our own economies with taxes that reduce our real ability to be productive, so their efforts at trade will be thwarted before they begin.

We will ban them cutting down their own trees, as we need them as carbon sinks.

Strangely, no one has been injured by global warming. But our hysteria about it staves millons already, and its gonna be a great growth industry.

**Mikkel** · 27th August 2009, 10:31

Originally Posted by jaymzw

EDIT: And name me a 'wealthy dictatorship'

Hmmm, not so easy... but I could name you a few wealthy dictators. I guess some perks must come along with any job that lowers your life expectancy - except from commercial diving that is.

**mashman** · 27th August 2009, 11:30

Originally Posted by jaymzw

EDIT: And name me a 'wealthy dictatorship'

The Vatican?

Nothing will change if Economy instead of People is the goal of a countries leadership...

**sunhuntin** · 27th August 2009, 13:00

Originally Posted by Lurch

It is amazing how they are so keen on continuing their suffering eternally.

lol. no energy to dig a garden, but tons of energy to rape virgin babies in the thought it will cure their aids. someone on tardme made a good point the other day. if they are really starving, why havent they resorted to cannabalism? if its good enough for that sports team that got trapped in the mountains when their plane crashed...