Why we need to slow down

**Funkyfly** · 3rd May 2005, 11:39

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Interesting, so the truth is subjective,it accords to your world view.
As in, people used to believe the world was the centre of the universe and the planets revolved around it. They even burnt those that disagreed.

Heh, yea I had to laugh when I read that too.

A Paedophile Truthfully believes (according to his "worldview") theres nothing wrong with a boy man relationship.

You cant rely on each persons individual values and beliefs.

**Virago** · 3rd May 2005, 15:59

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Take the bastids with you if they caused the accident

Besides, at 250 k's you're a harder target to hit or catch..

If a car pulls out in front of you when you're doing 250k, can you honestly say they are at fault?????

**Lou Girardin** · 3rd May 2005, 16:35

Originally Posted by Virago = Viagra

If a car pulls out in front of you when you're doing 250k, can you honestly say they are at fault?????

It was said tongue in cheek. But if you fail to give way, the other vehicles speed will not absolve you from fault. At best, it may be used in mitigation.

**jazbug5** · 3rd May 2005, 16:43

Since you would then be wearing the other vehicle, is this not a moot point?

**roo** · 3rd May 2005, 17:36

Originally Posted by spudchucka

I'm not at all twitchy this morning

The pills are working then? ...excellent.

**Stevo** · 4th May 2005, 22:08

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Take the bastids with you if they caused the accident

Besides, at 250 k's you're a harder target to hit or catch..

OK!
I said Spud was twitchy as he bit to a usual Lou trolls,.................... twice.

But the above post ranks amongst the the "Elite of Stupidity." I can't give a flying toss whether you said this in jest or not!! This is one of THE dumbest posts yet I have read on KB. Pretty much alongside Winja's post the other day "Hope you crash" response to another KBer!

Now I am twitchy

**Beemer** · 5th May 2005, 10:52

A mate of mine was seriously injured when a horse jumped through the windscreen of her van - it was loose on the road and ran straight in front of her. She would have been doing 100kph but it's not like the horse was doing anywhere near that speed and you should have seen the mess. She was just as badly injured as she would have been in a head-on with another vehicle and the horse looked much like this bike.

I photographed an accident last week, god knows how the two drivers survived - it was a head-on at 100kph between a light truck and a van, but amazingly they hit passenger-side to passenger-side! The cops said one had crossed the centre line but luckily neither had passengers or they would have been dead. The van looked about the length of a mini and the whole cab of the truck was munted.

I think the message we can all take from this is be prepared - I hate the ads about "he's prepared to kill him and he's prepared to kill her" - but try to think of the consequences of going at this speed on a public road. No way could you blame the car driver because even if they had seen the bike in the distance, they would have assumed it was doing somewhere around the speed limit for that country - and judged it was safe to proceed. Sad waste of life for all involved.

**Virago** · 5th May 2005, 12:01

Originally Posted by Beemer

A mate of mine was seriously injured when a horse jumped through the windscreen of her van - it was loose on the road and ran straight in front of her. She would have been doing 100kph but it's not like the horse was doing anywhere near that speed and you should have seen the mess. She was just as badly injured as she would have been in a head-on with another vehicle and the horse looked much like this bike.

I photographed an accident last week, god knows how the two drivers survived - it was a head-on at 100kph between a light truck and a van, but amazingly they hit passenger-side to passenger-side! The cops said one had crossed the centre line but luckily neither had passengers or they would have been dead. The van looked about the length of a mini and the whole cab of the truck was munted.

I think the message we can all take from this is be prepared - I hate the ads about "he's prepared to kill him and he's prepared to kill her" - but try to think of the consequences of going at this speed on a public road. No way could you blame the car driver because even if they had seen the bike in the distance, they would have assumed it was doing somewhere around the speed limit for that country - and judged it was safe to proceed. Sad waste of life for all involved.

My sentiments exactly. There will be very few of us who can honestly say that we don't occasionally speed or take risks when riding, but this "chip on the shoulder" mentality that any accident is someone else's fault is pointless.

If you hit ANYTHING when doing grossly excessive speed on a public road, then you are at fault. Simple as that. If you choose to take the risk, then you also choose to kill. The comment about "taking the b*stards with you", tongue in cheek or otherwise, would have to rank amongst the dumbest ever posts on this site.

**Lou Girardin** · 5th May 2005, 17:14

Originally Posted by Stevo

OK!
I said Spud was twitchy as he bit to a usual Lou trolls,.................... twice.

But the above post ranks amongst the the "Elite of Stupidity." I can't give a flying toss whether you said this in jest or not!! This is one of THE dumbest posts yet I have read on KB. Pretty much alongside Winja's post the other day "Hope you crash" response to another KBer!

Now I am twitchy

My Mum always said I'd amount to something.
Hmmm. Elite, eh. I'm not up to WINJA's standard though, I have to work at it.

**Motoracer** · 5th May 2005, 17:25

Originally Posted by Beemer

I think the message we can all take from this is be prepared - I hate the ads about "he's prepared to kill him and he's prepared to kill her" -

I am not too fond of the other one either. The one that goes like "There is a time bomb at the intersection.... Tick-tok-tick-tok-tick-tok.....Vrrrrommm....BANG!....It's you!" So they are saying the crash is inevitable and it's only a matter of time. They are saying the drivers or riders or who ever are crap anyway and there's nothing we can do about it. They might as well just tell us all "You are all fuck wits and you'r gonna kill yourselves" instead of giving us the message like "hey, this is what you are doing wrong and this is what you really should be doing to prevent it".

Maybe it's just me...

**Coldkiwi** · 5th May 2005, 18:07

Originally Posted by Motoracer

Maybe it's just me...

nope... you've got it in one bro!

**Virago** · 5th May 2005, 18:15

Originally Posted by Motoracer

I am not too fond of the other one either. The one that goes like "There is a time bomb at the intersection.... Tick-tok-tick-tok-tick-tok.....Vrrrrommm....BANG!....It's you!" So they are saying the crash is inevitable and it's only a matter of time. They are saying the drivers or riders or who ever are crap anyway and there's nothing we can do about it. They might as well just tell us all "You are all fuck wits and you'r gonna kill yourselves" instead of giving us the message like "hey, this is what you are doing wrong and this is what you really should be doing to prevent it".

Maybe it's just me...

Actually that one made me think about my own actions at intersections. We all get impatient at intersections, and it is the impatience that can cause accidents. The advert is irritating with the constant repetition though.

**outlawtorn** · 6th May 2005, 08:39

Hey guys, just found this pick on the net and I found an explanation with it, don't know how official it is but I thought I'd share it will y'all:

How bad is this? maybe our cops need to use these photo's as warnings! One rooted RC45 Honda. This is a "cleaned up" version. The police cleaned it out and put it back together to show what CAN happen. The Honda rider was traveling at "very high speed" and did not see the golf. Swedish police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h when he hit the car. The car had two passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car. The Volkswagen flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10 feet from where the collision took place. All three involved (two in car and rider) where killed instantly. The MC-rider had a new license.

**TwoSeven** · 6th May 2005, 11:42

Ever wondered why when driving around - people always seem to pull out in front of you.

Well, 55km/hr is the limit at which people are no longer able to judge speed accurately. Above this their timings are messed up, so they cant figure out how long an approaching vehicle will take to travel a set distance.

Its a combined speed, not that of just one vehicle (unless one of them is stopped at an intersection).

If you dont believe me, try riding your bike 5km either side of that limit and see if you can notice the difference in people that try and go for the gap in front and people that wait for you to pass.

**Lou Girardin** · 6th May 2005, 12:32

Originally Posted by TwoSeven

Ever wondered why when driving around - people always seem to pull out in front of you.

Well, 55km/hr is the limit at which people are no longer able to judge speed accurately. Above this their timings are messed up, so they cant figure out how long an approaching vehicle will take to travel a set distance.

Its a combined speed, not that of just one vehicle (unless one of them is stopped at an intersection).

If you dont believe me, try riding your bike 5km either side of that limit and see if you can notice the difference in people that try and go for the gap in front and people that wait for you to pass.

So why doesn't everybody pull out in front of cars in 100 km/h zones?