I don't get it?

[Robert Taylor]

Don't get me started on the decline of nostalgia, in my day.......

I recently unpacked a whole pile of ''New zealand Motorcycle News'' From the late 70s, a time when I actually hankered to ride motorcycles. No different then, people were grizzling about the cost of racing, not as rosy as the current CEO of MNZ would like to have everyone believe....

[oyster]

No, I think the report in the mag is all tongue in cheek, and quite funny actually. Let's hope he's not serious!
Take the Aug edition:
In ref to the North Island Nat rounds being a month apart
"which would get the backs up of some racers, especially those who don't like to travel across the Cook Straight too often. Not that it will affect too many, as there is only a dedicated few from the mainland that travel north, and most of those are our up and coming 125 racers."
Really? A few, meaning3? How come in 2008 44% of the totat points scored in the Nats were by members of Motorcycling Canterbury. Were these the 3 that were the champions of the 2 premier SP classes, and the only Grand Prix class? (same club again)
And the ref to 125GP riders, does this imply they don't count as important?

Later in the article "Hampton Downs will also surprise those from down country, that think central North Island tracks are best."
Well I guess "down country" to an Aucklander means Hamilton. To many it's the South Island, where the best tracks are certainly are, not in the mid North Island! Where was he thinking of?

No, it's really funny stuff, take as that

[BIGBOSSMAN]

Well he's 'had a go' at another club directly to my face before so it would not nescassarily be out of character....but hey, you may be right but it is definately 'unfortunate' wording as Robert has said.

Go gettem MArcus, ya nasty little fuck.

[slowpoke]

I agree with you slowpoke that profile is crap but contend we still have quality racing. Gareth Jones is a good example of a young rider benefitting from our racing....

Sorry to labour the point but Gareth isn't a Kiwi. He's a nice bloke, talented as hell, only 22(I think) and hopefuly he's benefited from the competition here, but he's not a product of NZ. Which is my point: we have little chance of producing someone similar at a similar age....unless they go overseas from a young age. We just don't have the tracks, or depth of competition, or an internationally respected championship (and soon to be machinery) etc etc to give someone the tools to succeed at a young enough age to interest a good team on a big stage....and riding for a crap team is just a ticket home again.

I recently unpacked a whole pile of ''New zealand Motorcycle News'' From the late 70s, a time when I actually hankered to ride motorcycles. No different then, people were grizzling about the cost of racing, not as rosy as the current CEO of MNZ would like to have everyone believe....

So just like the ol' fish 'n chips we can expect our Ohlins goodies to arrive wrapped in old NZMN pages? Can I add a couple of paua fritters to that cartridge order please, Robert?

No, I think the report in the mag is all tongue in cheek, and quite funny actually. Let's hope he's not serious!
Take the Aug edition:
In ref to the North Island Nat rounds being a month apart
"which would get the backs up of some racers, especially those who don't like to travel across the Cook Straight too often. Not that it will affect too many, as there is only a dedicated few from the mainland that travel north, and most of those are our up and coming 125 racers."
Really? A few, meaning3? How come in 2008 44% of the totat points scored in the Nats were by members of Motorcycling Canterbury. Were these the 3 that were the champions of the 2 premier SP classes, and the only Grand Prix class? (same club again)
And the ref to 125GP riders, does this imply they don't count as important?

Later in the article "Hampton Downs will also surprise those from down country, that think central North Island tracks are best."
Well I guess "down country" to an Aucklander means Hamilton. To many it's the South Island, where the best tracks are certainly are, not in the mid North Island! Where was he thinking of?

No, it's really funny stuff, take as that

Yep, funny as hell really. Red's Triple R team, the most successful team in NZ of recent years (Bugden, Charlett, Smith), is based on the mainland and involves a hell of a lot more than just 2 or 3 riders hopping over the ditch.

The comment on Hampton Downs is just non-sensical! The whole M/C community is hangin' out like Ron Jeremy's ol' fella for HD to be ride ready so there won't be any suprises there.....but it ain't ready yet, and until it is every track in the country has got the wood on Puke', whether he likes it or not.

[Rcktfsh]

[QUOTE=slowpoke;1129388862]Sorry to labour the point but Gareth isn't a Kiwi. He's a nice bloke, talented as hell, only 22(I think) and hopefuly he's benefited from the competition here, but he's not a product of NZ. Which is my point: we have little chance of producing someone similar at a similar age....unless they go overseas from a young age. We just don't have the tracks, or depth of competition, or an internationally respected championship (and soon to be machinery) etc etc to give someone the tools to succeed at a young enough age to interest a good team on a big stage....and riding for a crap team is just a ticket home again.



Definitely not a kiwi as his mangled english proves but he has learnt alot of his race craft in NZ over the last 2 years and RT Motorsports (his dutch team) are a small low profile outfit which hasn't stopped him being noticed by larger ones. For the kiwi riders like Sam Smith who battled glosely with Jones last year it hopefully gives them the confidence to follow in his foot steps.

[wharfy]

The whole M/C community is hangin' out like Ron Jeremy's ol' fella for HD to be ride ready so there won't be any suprises there.....but it ain't ready yet, and until it is every track in the country has got the wood on Puke', whether he likes it or not.

"Ron Jeremy" !!! Your showing your age a bit mate

[scrivy]

The whole M/C community is hangin' out like Ron Jeremy's ol' fella for HD to be ride ready so there won't be any suprises there.....but it ain't ready yet, and until it is every track in the country has got the wood on Puke', whether he likes it or not.

Is that called the 'Hampton Downs Syndrome'........

[slowpoke]

"Ron Jeremy" !!! Your showing your age a bit mate

Waddayamean? He's just a hairy 25 year old going by the porn we've got offshore.....ok, ok, so it might be totally up to date......

[scracha]

"Another top racer used to finish work at 5pm, and then race into town and pump gas from 6pm till midnight, he did this 4 nights a week. Then through the winter he also worked the weekends.

Just ignore the mindless rantings of another whining selfish old cunt who can't remember how easy his generation had everything. Does he write the 'el presidente reports in the pub, on the bag of a fag packet after a half dozen handles?

[prettybillie]

Sometimes things are crap, but unless you want to do it yourself you just have to let them do it their own way. If you think thats hard, try training staff. Everyone does it their own way.

Let it go. Once you are on the track everything will be fine, and if its not fine, it will be good enough.

Steve

Good point really - we are all happy to bag the organisers of a meet or a track day or a practice day when we don't like how it is run however all the moaners seem to be the ones who are not prepared to stand up, join a committee and make the changes they want to see. If you don't like it, stop moaning and become part of the change makers.

[Skunk]

Good point really - we are all happy to bag the organisers of a meet or a track day or a practice day when we don't like how it is run however all the moaners seem to be the ones who are not prepared to stand up, join a committee and make the changes they want to see. If you don't like it, stop moaning and become part of the change makers.

Our whole committee thanks you. We do our best.

[Peter Smith]

Good point really - we are all happy to bag the organisers of a meet or a track day or a practice day when we don't like how it is run however all the moaners seem to be the ones who are not prepared to stand up, join a committee and make the changes they want to see. If you don't like it, stop moaning and become part of the change makers.

Bingo, what she said, withs bells on.

[Biggles08]

I agree, there is little point in merely bagging people for the sake of it. However some people do little to help themselves! This article seems pretty pointless to me and has no logical substance apart from appearing as some weird self indulgence by the writer. It is written in a manner that shows little respect for a club (VMCC) that actually is thriving and performing well! This 'Presidents Report' is a bad piece of writing that highlights an ignorant viewpoint on a well run winter series that is far more competitive and attended than any event that AMCC has held recently! So why highlight this????

[malcy25]

I agree, there is little point in merely bagging people for the sake of it. However some people do little to help themselves! This article seems pretty pointless to me and has no logical substance apart from appearing as some weird self indulgence by the writer. It is written in a manner that shows little respect for a club (VMCC) that actually is thriving and performing well! This 'Presidents Report' is a bad piece of writing that highlights an ignorant viewpoint on a well run winter series that is far more competitive and attended than any event that AMCC has held recently! So why highlight this????

Q: So where does it say it was the VMCC winter series?

A: Doesn't. You drew the inference it was VMCC in your first post.

Q: Where does it bag how another series was run?

A: It doesn't. The only comments to this effect is what you have written.

Logical Sustance? Plenty.
1) Many racers don't know where or how to start getting outside funding for their racing. Costello is talking through the basics that many new racers have no concept of.

Go back 10 or so years ago and the AMCC was running a scholarship programme where they would give away up to $2000 a year to a racer. There were a few very simple requirements. 1) The club was provided with a presentation by any rider in the club on how they would use the money to further their racing or move to a next step (buckets to club series, Club to National, National to International, didn't care which). They selected one rider each year. 2) The selected rider ran a sticker on his bike, and provided reports back to the club newsletter and hopefully a thankyou at the end.

The aim was to get riders to think about presentation and essentially create a proposal they could give to other potential personal sponsors.

This was done a number of years and the club required little in return. Not nothing, just something basic and many riders struggled to even tell the organisation that was funding their racing what they did or even how they got on.

Many struggled to put even a basic presentation together or what they should do or include. Many years there were few applicants. This was almost free money or funding with little in the way of strings attached and riders couldn't even construct a basic presentation (only needed to be written).

The way I see it, nothing has changed much and many new racers still need to understand the basics on what they need to do if they want to atract sponsorship. These editorials are outlining this at a high level and is relevevant to a sector of the racing scene.

Open your eyes a little and you would see that.

2) Club/winter series vs national's? It's all about set your sights high. How many woman do you know, who are just dying to have that cubic zirconia ring.....

[malcy25]

Just ignore the mindless rantings of another whining selfish old cunt who can't remember how easy his generation had everything. Does he write the 'el presidente reports in the pub, on the bag of a fag packet after a half dozen handles?

Selfish?

1) Yeah, go ask him how many hours he puts in a week running the club and what it costs him in his back pocket each year. (hint $5-10k) through lost earnings and probably 20-40 hours a week on top of his day job.

And it's not like he's getting the fun of racing a bike for that, plus carries all the stress....
2) At Puke, who's ute is used as the pick up vehicle each meeting dragging broken bikes back
3) Who's ute is used by all and sundry as the work horse
4) who's ute is used to cart all the equipment to / from the circuit each meeting
5) So he grew up in the time of "Milk & Honey" I bet he had control of when he was born. Not!
6) Refer Robert Taylor's comment above - 30 years ago people were moaning about costs then. So was it that much easier? No.

C**Ts: last time I looked, they were useful....

So, tell me again, how exactly is he being selfish?

Maybe instead we should ignore the mindless ramblings of another whining selfish racer.