Traffic tickets triple in five years (NZ)

[madboy]

It all comes down to $$$$ people, one fatal or serious injury crash prevented is many times the dollar value of a burglary or car theft prevented- or even an assault, that's the way the polies think folk - and YOU voted them in.

Surely you're on a pisstake asking for a bite there? What friggin difference will my vote make? Even if the rest of the country voted for the same party I did, will it make any difference? Hell no - no Govt in their right mind is gonna turn down such a stunning revenue gathering opportunity (more commonly referred to as "Road Policing Strategy"). National / Act / the whanau, what's the diff in that respect?

If they cut down on the road revenue, then they might have to spend more of the other roading taxes on the road, and oh shit, then they'd have to find some savings in areas not associated with cars. And can you imagine the outcry when thousands of lazy ass motherf*****s suddenly have to get off the benefit and into a job?? Oh f*** me no!

[Lou Girardin]

BOTH had worn tyres, one would have been a hazard at 14kph let alone 149!!

Well, why not speed dangerous. Put the tosser off the road for 6 months.

[Lou Girardin]

It's interesting that the police generally take the flak for the traffic ticket situation when I think the policy itself is driven by the government. The police have a contract with the government which includes producing so many traffic hours. I wonder what the results would be if a poll was done of NZ Police and their thoughts on traffic policing in it's current state, I think it would lean towards the views of many on this board. But I guess at the end of the day the police on the streets do what they are told by their bosses, and their bosses do what they are told etc. Eventually it comes back to the commissioner and the minister of police and the contract. If we really want to change the situation we need to direct the comments in the right direction, which in my opinion is that little round building in central Wellington.

The Police are supposed to be beyond political interference. At least that's what Georgie Hawkins says every time he's asked questions about their performance.

[scumdog]

Well, why not speed dangerous. Put the tosser off the road for 6 months.

Hell no, - "kill the goose that lays the golden egg"? no way, 'cos it may be a source of tickets for months to come!!

[idb]

No I didn't

I voted for the yogic flyers...

Hey, I forgot about the yogic flyers!
Man, I wasted my vote there.........

[marmel]

The Police are supposed to be beyond political interference. At least that's what Georgie Hawkins says every time he's asked questions about their performance.

I think it's more like the police and government have a contract where the govt states this is what we want you to provide and your funding will be based on producing these results..... and then leave it up to the police to deliver. George Hawkins may say that he has no influence over police practices and procedures, which may be true for the day to day running of the outfit, but the very basis of police funding comes back to that contract so it has to have a huge influence on how police allocate resources.

If the police minister listened to joe public he could change the direction of policing by changing the contract but will that ever happen....not likely.

[JohnBoy]

the very basis of police funding comes back to that contract so it has to have a huge influence on how police allocate resources.

and thats what is so scary. how many more other crimes go unresolved/ punished because of this stratagy?? i thought the role of the police was to protect our communities, all they have proved to do is to scare the public about something as trivial is minor speeding.

[T.I.E]

i don't think penalities are hard and high enough. raise the ticket prices up. put recless drivers whom cause accidents/ death in prision, with a stiff penality.
and most of all educate people about driving etc.
driver education is shocking.
you should not pass a drivers liecence till you can ride a bike and drive a truck. then you might have some idea of the road.

[T.I.E]

and stop giving driver licences to every tom dick and harry from over seas. eg asians whom cause an accident and bugger off home to leave a mess behind.

[scumdog]

and stop giving driver licences to every tom dick and harry from over seas. eg asians whom cause an accident and bugger off home to leave a mess behind.

Easy on the Asians man, I get to see a lot of "licences" from all over the world and sometimes have to wonder "sure they have a licence but have they EVER driven a car before they got to New Zealand?" in a lot of cases probabaly not and even if they had what kind of driving was it?

Bumper to bumper on motorways or city streets I suspect.

[WINJA]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3242078a10,00.html

Number of police tickets issued increased from 136,999 in 2000, to 395,913 in 2004. 189% increase.

The biggest increase was in tickets to drivers exceeding the speed limit by 11-15km where 161,916 tickets were issued in 2004, compared with 3785 in 2000. (Refer to link for full article)

I DROVE THRU HAMILTRON TODAY AND THERE WAS A SIGN SAYING ROAD DEATHS WERE 3 TIMES HIGHER THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR , ITS OBVIOUS THIS TICKETING STRATEGY IS NOT FUCKIN WORKING SO WHY CONTINUE, DOES A DOCTOR CONTINUE TO GIVE MEDICINE THAT IS NOT WORKING ? NO HE CHANGES WHAT HES DOING TO GET A RESULT ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT , FUCK THE PIGS ITS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND STOP GIVING OUT POINTLESS TICKETS. FUCK THE PIGS I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEM I WILL CONTINUE TO DO RUNNERS JUST LIKE MOST PEOPLE I KNOW DO

[Waylander]

DOES A DOCTOR CONTINUE TO GIVE MEDICINE THAT IS NOT WORKING ? NO HE CHANGES WHAT HES DOING TO GET A RESULT ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT ,

Well that depends on individual doctors. Sometimes they give you the most expensive thing that wont work on purpose just to get more money off ya. Also had a doc tell me I had broken my leg once when it was perfectly fine other than being sore from a fight I was in the day before. Never did trust doctors...

[RiderInBlack]

and stop giving driver licences to every tom dick and harry from over seas. eg asians whom cause an accident and bugger off home to leave a mess behind.

Hey, how about we stop everyone from having a licience (seeing the average NZ driver are often considered pretty bad by a few other nations) and then noone will be able to drive and there will be no traffic accidents. Of course the Government and Police will have to get their funding from another sorce, like giving tickets for swearing (should be a lot of that because we would be all f*cked off with not being able get to work)

[scumdog]

I DROVE THRU HAMILTRON TODAY AND THERE WAS A SIGN SAYING ROAD DEATHS WERE 3 TIMES HIGHER THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR , ITS OBVIOUS THIS TICKETING STRATEGY IS NOT FUCKIN WORKING SO WHY CONTINUE

Yeah, and I saw a sign saying "The End is Nigh" but the road kept on going and another one that said I could only go around the next corner at 85kph but I did it at 125kph ya just can't trust signs anymore eh!!

[Waylander]

Yeah, and I saw a sign saying "The End is Nigh" but the road kept on going and another one that said I could only go around the next corner at 85kph but I did it at 125kph ya just can't trust signs anymore eh!!

Bit like those signs they started using in dallas before I left. At an intersection they had signs saying that "X amount of tickets were issued at this intersection last month, don't be next." Well actually I shouldn't say that it's like those signes cause these worked. Red light tickets and accidents due to someone runnin the light did drop drastically. These were camera controlled intersections too so EVERYONE that ran the light got a ticket, even a few cops when thier lights wern't flashing.