Round 5 VMCC Actrix Winter Series

[Duke girl]

Exactly Foxzee, by having transponders on each bike gives us information on the times each bike is doing per lap and tells us where that bike belongs on the grid for the start of the race.
You have really done your homework on this matter and hopefully on the day it will all turn out and everyone will be happy.
Well done.

[sinfull]

The fastest qualify time doesnt make a bike the quickest 2 corner 1.Thats a small issue with running in qualify order.

Without meaning to sound ...ummm...rude..that's what transponders are for so shouldn't effect anyone's points as this will still be run as sep classes within the same race..I hear wot you are saying but don't see that it's any different than any other class esp ones with cross entries.....at this point we have no other option to accom all to make race day awesome for all....glad you want to have fun Mossy that's what it's all about....

I can see Mossys point here Dee, Not sure how the pro twin or posties points are standing atm but If Ya get a mix of High HP posties and Pro twin bikes all taking off at the same time, if some on the front grids get a bad start and some High HP bikes/but slower lap time riders, get in front at T1, that could Quite possibly having an effect on the outcome !
Vice versa in the iether class !!! (can hear the cries now !! I would have made up the time i lost at the start, but got held up by some bikes that weren't even in my race)
A split start (using last round times to see who gets away first perhaps), just to let the feild spread a bit that 1st lap might not !~

My 2 c worth, you know i don't really care, as i'm just a round and round sorta guy and (sniff sniff) don't really fit in !
But i have to agree with him !

[nzkr1]

I can see Mossys point here Dee, Not sure how the pro twin or posties points are standing atm but If Ya get a mix of High HP posties and Pro twin bikes all taking off at the same time, if some on the front grids get a bad start and some High HP bikes/but slower lap time riders, get in front at T1, that could Quite possibly having an effect on the outcome !
Vice versa in the iether class !!! (can hear the cries now !! I would have made up the time i lost at the start, but got held up by some bikes that weren't even in my race)
A split start (using last round times to see who gets away first perhaps), just to let the feild spread a bit that 1st lap might not !~

My 2 c worth, you know i don't really care, as i'm just a round and round sorta guy and (sniff sniff) don't really fit in !
But i have to agree with him !

Stagger the start has to be the best solution. Nothing worse than been carved up down the straights and then held up in the corners. Makes for slow lap times.

[wharfy]

PALMERSTON_NORTH (filed at 11:22am Wednesday, 23rd September 2009)

Temps from PALMERSTON_NORTH_A

Wednesday
Occasional light rain. Westerly dying away.
Maximum temperature of 13 degrees and a Minimum of 7

Thursday
Periods of rain. Strong or gale easterlies.
Max temperature of 9 degrees and minimum of 6

Friday
Rain at times. Strong easterlies.
Max temperature of 16 degrees and minimum of 8

Saturday
Rain easing to few showers. Winds tend southerly.
Max temperature of 15 degrees and minimum of 7

Sunday
Mainly fine. Light winds.
Max temperature of 16 degrees and minimum of 10

Hmmm....... I hope the Manfield microclimate kicks in (and the lucky wet tyres )

[Foxzee]

I can see Mossys point here Dee, Not sure how the pro twin or posties points are standing atm but If Ya get a mix of High HP posties and Pro twin bikes all taking off at the same time, if some on the front grids get a bad start and some High HP bikes/but slower lap time riders, get in front at T1, that could Quite possibly having an effect on the outcome !
Vice versa in the iether class !!! (can hear the cries now !! I would have made up the time i lost at the start, but got held up by some bikes that weren't even in my race)
A split start (using last round times to see who gets away first perhaps), just to let the feild spread a bit that 1st lap might not !~

My 2 c worth, you know i don't really care, as i'm just a round and round sorta guy and (sniff sniff) don't really fit in !
But i have to agree with him !

Hey Sinny....

You're 2c worth is well regarded...thank you....it's good to get the feedback....

Here's some lap times Pro twins 1.16 to 1.24...with the slower ones out to 1.27, Post Classic Snr's 1.15 to 1.24 again with the slower ones out to 1.27...so they are pretty much on each other's game......

Gosh the last time I saw you you were fitting in extremely well ..........lol

[Deano]

Here's some lap times Pro twins 1.16 to 1.24...with the slower ones out to 1.27, Post Classic Snr's 1.15 to 1.24 again with the slower ones out to 1.27...so they are pretty much on each other's game......

I'd wager that while the lap times are similar, the PC Snr's will be quicker down the straights and the pro twins quicker through the corners.

I agree with nzkr1 in that a staggered start might be the best and safest option.

[Foxzee]

I'd wager that while the lap times are similar, the PC Snr's will be quicker down the straights and the pro twins quicker through the corners.

I agree with nzkr1 in that a staggered start might be the best and safest option.

Cool...thanks Deano...was hoping you were going jump in with your thoughts.....

[Wannabiker]

Its always going to happen that there will be faster bikes to the first corner...a bonus in some respects.....

In classes where 2 and 4 stroke compete together off the same grid the same thing happens...as it does in every race...someone gets to turn 1 first.

[wharfy]

Its always going to happen that there will be faster bikes to the first corner...a bonus in some respects.....

In classes where 2 and 4 stroke compete together off the same grid the same thing happens...as it does in every race...someone gets to turn 1 first.

It happened to me once in 1973, and I wasn't sure what to do when I got there !!!

[wharfy]

Hey Swerve,
what day is your ferry crossing ?
Issued at 12:38pm 23-Sep-2009

A LARGE LOW

A large and deepening low over the western Tasman Sea is currently making
its presence felt over eastern parts of Australia, with dust storms in
Sydney.

"On Thursday this low will be closer to New Zealand than Australia, even
bigger and deeper than it is now and is expected to make its presence felt
over much of the country," commented Peter Kreft of MetService. "MetService
has issued a Severe Weather Warning for heavy rain over central parts of
the North Island on Thursday."

Mr Kreft added that "Meanwhile, a cold southerly outbreak is working its
way up the South Island. It should arrive over central parts of the country
tomorrow about the same time the heavy rain from the north does. This is a
recipe for snow."

MetService has issued a Severe Weather Warning for heavy snow over the
Tararua Ranges on Thursday. Further, a Severe Weather Watch for heavy snow
and/or heavy rain is in effect for areas from Taihape right through to
north Canterbury. Unusually for the time of year, snow is expected down to
about 400 metres.

Over central parts of the country, the "squash zone" is expected to bring
strong or gale easterlies on Thursday. The combination of strong winds and
rain or snow is likely to put stress on livestock.

"Finally," said MetService's Peter Kreft, "the precise track of the low
will have a big influence on where severe weather occurs. Keep up to date
with the latest forecasts and warnings at metservice.com ."

For further information please contact:
Peter Kreft Manager Public Weather Services (04)4700 806



Cook coastal forecast

Issued at: 12:48 pm 23 Sep 2009 NZST

Valid to: 0:00 am 25 Sep 2009 NZST

Forecast
*GALE WARNING IN FORCE*
Northwest 20 knots. Change southeast 25 knots this evening and rising to 40 knots overnight, easing to 25 knots Thursday night. Sea becoming very rough.Poor visibility in rain developing in the morning.

Outlook
Outlook following 3 days: Rising Friday morning southeast 35 knots with very rough sea. Easing Saturday afternoon southerly 20 knots, then dying out at night. Developing Sunday morning northerly 15 knots. Southerly swell becoming moderate for a time late Saturday.

[Harvd]

oh shit...

[Wannabiker]

It happened to me once in 1973, and I wasn't sure what to do when I got there !!!

Well I havent managed to get to turn 1 first yet, and I too would be in a similar position...so gobsmacked that I would sit up and wait to see what was wrong...

[mossy1200]

Just put it forward for thought because at the summer series(manfield) they started posties with clubmans behind and an rsv managed to reach corner one at the same time as the posties.I was thinking along the lines that the posties will become a rolling road block in the infield after the straght line drag.
My concern would be that pro twins that got out dragged would kiss goodbye to the ones that didnt during the first half of the first lap.Dont get me wrong cause ill be having fun reguardless.

[wharfy]

I'd wager that while the lap times are similar, the PC Snr's will be quicker down the straights and the pro twins quicker through the corners.

I agree with nzkr1 in that a staggered start might be the best and safest option.

I tend to agree with Deano, some of those big postie bikes have a really good launch and if they are on row 2 or 3 of the grid that first 10 to 25 meters could be REALLY interesting .

[mossy1200]

I tend to agree with Deano, some of those big postie bikes have a really good launch and if they are on row 2 or 3 of the grid that first 10 to 25 meters could be REALLY interesting .

Same thoughts but the overall mix is great because with longer races there will be less lapping going on .
The bonus is that if its not good after Saturday which ever way its done Sunday is a new day for correction.
I remember the last track day having a sv650 go around the outside of me in the infield like I parked it up for smoko break.
If its wet during qualify and dry during race could be worse because surely a lighter 650 will be quicker qualify in the wet than a 200kg postie but could be slower in the dry.