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    Video cameras not allowed at Hampton Downs

    Hampton Downs Ride Days say that because a video camera can be used as a timing device and their (and many other) insurance companies won't cover timed events, that they are not allowing video cameras on the bikes or riders. I haven't asked if they also ban people from using video cameras at the side of the track, but following their logic they ought to be banned as well, since they could almost as easily be used to time laps.

    If there were other track day companies running track days at Hampton Downs that allowed video cameras, this would be enough reason for me to not go to Hampton Downs Ride Days track days. But since they have exclusive commercial rights, options are limited.

    HRC are running track days there and I believe they allow video cameras (they did last time I went to one of their days). And Frosty has mentioned a possible track day club. Kiwitrackdays sent out an email this evening saying that they are hoping to run some sort of track day that is significantly different to those offered by Hampton Downs Ride days, possibly a twilight track day from 4:30-7:00pm (they're looking for feedback if anyone wants to give them ideas...).

    I know a camera isn't essential and that most of the footage isn't that interesting, but it's nice to have a record of your track day so you can review the good bits or try to figure out what went wrong when you fall off.

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    Are they also banning watches and cell phones? They all have the time on them.

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    Ridiculous. Some bikes have built-in lap timers. Even my Shiver does.
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    My hero pro doesnt show the screen at the back.Unless I was to lean over to look at it front on.You would think some You tube footage would be free advertising.

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    That's bollocks. Surely its only relaitive to the person filming?
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    Thats a shame. Ahh well, atleast they are keeping the insurance happy, and ACC!

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    That really does suck. I video my rides simply to relive the ride and improve my riding. I'm not particularly interested in the lap time. Its a ridiculous rule.

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    hope they don't ban bikes with lap timers also
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    hey guys has anyone actually SPOKEN to the people that OWN Hampton downs? Not the guys talking up that they have exclusive rights etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    hey guys has anyone actually SPOKEN to the people that OWN Hampton downs? Not the guys talking up that they have exclusive rights etc.
    Not me, but I have no reason to doubt they have exclusive commercial rights, Devil's confirmed it and kiwitrackdays have also.
    The camera rule is a Hampton Downs Ride Days (and California Superbike School) rule, not a rule of the track, afaik.

    As a side note, I went to the last track tour yesterday. It's looking good.

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    What's the bet they'll do the recording and then sell it to you
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    where opinion holds more weight than fact.

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    Don't know about you - but my speedometer is somewhat dependent on time:

    KM/H => distance divided by time
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    What's your point? My speedometer tells me how fast I am going at the particular time I look down at it, it doesn't however have a timer that I might be able to use to determine my lap times.

    I'd say that 9/10 people take video on board simply to record the experience or for more experienced people to review it and give them tips on how to be smoother/faster. 1/10 people do it to wank on about their lap time (like it matters when you're not actually racing).

    The problem is that insurance companies that allow track day coverage usually require that:
    1. the track day is run professionally with flag marshalls etc
    2. scrutineering of bikes is carried out before they are allowed on the track
    3. your lap times are not being recorded


    The first two points are safety related, and the last point is to try and get across the point that they don't actually want you out there trying your hardest to improve your lap times and therefore increasing your risk of crashing.
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    You posted this at goodtime, I was about to get Gopro wideangle (170 Degree). Now i Will wait untill more info on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    What's your point? My speedometer tells me how fast I am going at the particular time I look down at it, it doesn't however have a timer that I might be able to use to determine my lap times.
    My point was that speed is a measure of both time and distance and therefore a speedometer implicitly measures time even though it doesn't "display" it as such.

    Just ignore me - I was trying to be pedantic and it didn't go so well.
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