How about we start the NEW ZEALAND language

[FROSTY:Me]

Sitting here bored waiting for car pictures to upload.
I was pondering the whole racial inequality thing in godzone.
I wounder what would happen if we adopted a unique New Zealand language as a deliberate thing rather than slowly being slid in as language naturally changes over time.
Im thinking we have unoficially adopted a bunch of maori words anyways so why not absorb em into the english language and call it New Zealand english??
Like for instance -Farnow for Family
Kai for food
I'm thinking if the protesters have owt to winge about they might dissapear

[klingon]

It's already happening! I have a New Zealand Dictionary (1982 edition) that includes lots of Maori words that have been incorporated into New Zealand English.

It's what makes us SPESHIL

Also it's changing faster and faster. My Bro left NZ in 1988 and now lives in Canada. Each time he comes back to New Zealand he virtually needs a translator because we have picked up so many more Maori words and built them into our language. These days we use all kinds of Maori words without expecting people to need a translation:
Kaumatua
Kuia
Hikoi
Hui
Whare
Whanau

[Morcs]

Sitting here bored waiting for car pictures to upload.
I was pondering the whole racial inequality thing in godzone.
I wounder what would happen if we adopted a unique New Zealand language as a deliberate thing rather than slowly being slid in as language naturally changes over time.
Im thinking we have unoficially adopted a bunch of maori words anyways so why not absorb em into the english language and call it New Zealand english??
Like for instance -Farnow for Family
Kai for food
I'm thinking if the protesters have owt to winge about they might dissapear

I get highly offended when people refer to my family as farnow.

[browny]

i think you're onto something frosty,its not just the lingo either im well over listening to the bs about land settlements etc all that treaty shit,we are all kiwis living here[if you are born here]and the only ones that benefit from it are the lard arses in parliament who trying to justify why we need maori seats .the average maori doesnt get anything out of all the land that goes back to the 'maori'.put the money into schools or something that will benefit our future generations.i should add im part maori not racist.thats my rant anyway

[Hitcher]

Goodness me. If you are a New Zealander, Maori is just as much your language as is English. Whether you choose to celebrate it and use it is your personal choice.

E noho ra

[hospitalfood]

use it if you want, if you don't, don't.

i think it is important for maori people to retain there culture and language, but i think N.Z. europeans should leave this to maori people rather than get to involved.

it is not really up to NZ euro's to make any formal decisions about what happens to maori language in my opinion, nor do I think we necessarily have the right to incorporate maori words into english.

maori language is gaining bastardized new words based very closely on english words, and it seriously upsets some maori friends of mine because it is not true maori. i can understand them feeling this way.

[Danae]

If you can pronounce it, go ahead. Always makes me cringe watching politicians stumbling through maori phrases.

My fave is kia ora...sounds so happy.

[James Deuce]

maori language is gaining bastardized new words based very closely on english words, and it seriously upsets some maori friends of mine because it is not true maori. i can understand them feeling this way.

"True Maori"? There's no such thing.

It's bizarre that they're annoyed their language is evolving.

That is the one sign of a growing, dynamic language, and important indicator of the vitality of a culture.

English is so widespread because its basic foundation embraces a wide range of non-culturally specific concepts, giving it the flexibility to adopt new concepts, words and usages of existing words.

Latin is called a dead language because it is. It is useful for zoological purposes (categorisation, not going to the zoo with the kiddies) because labeling something in Latin is a cross-cultural success as Latin is fixed and will never change its rules.

[98tls]

use it if you want, if you don't, don't.

i think it is important for maori people to retain there culture and language, but i think N.Z. europeans should leave this to maori people rather than get to involved.

it is not really up to NZ euro's to make any formal decisions about what happens to maori language in my opinion, nor do I think we necessarily have the right to incorporate maori words into english.

maori language is gaining bastardized new words based very closely on english words, and it seriously upsets some maori friends of mine because it is not true maori. i can understand them feeling this way.

Seems we have no choice considering recent events in Hanganui.

[James Deuce]

Someone should read the work the Solomons (the missionaries) did in terms of turning Maori into a written language.

"Wh" was meant to describe an "expostulation of air through the lips", not an "f" or "ph" sound.

Wanganui has always had a "hard" "W" sound. Whakatane hasn't, and the first hard syllable should be "ka", not "Wha" with a "ph".

[hospitalfood]

"True Maori"? There's no such thing.

there is a maori word for floor, it is long and incorporates the earth.
there is a bastardized maori word for floor, it is floor with perhaps one different letter and different pronunciation.

there are implications when doing this to a language

this is the point im trying to make, but i don't expect people to agree

[Maha]

I have two words I use from time to time.

Mahawatu = A Region in the lower North Island (I added an H)
Maungatawopwop = A place that wish to visit but have no idea where it is (I have used both Maori and Italian)

[sinfull]

Cut it owt au ! Chur bro you wait till i git hold yorr racist ass nex wk !

[hospitalfood]

"Wh" was meant to describe an "expostulation of air through the lips", not an "f" or "ph" sound.

actually, spelling and pronunciation varies from one tribe to another.fact

[hospitalfood]

Seems we have no choice considering recent events in Hanganui.

i have not spoken with any educated maori regarding it, and am not sure what is right or wrong in this case. i seem to remember that the main tribe/tribes in that area do not use the H. i could be wrong