New bike, Annoying problem, Please help.

[mr_fett01]

I have not changed any wires or anything from when the bike was dropped off.

When I reconnected the charged battery it sparked like crazy, this is at the same time it was trying to turn over.

I think that the battery is ok.

I suspect that this was inevitable. I dont suppose I have any come back on the people I bought it off if I end up having to fork out money to fix it.

Thanks for the offer pedro. I may yet ask for some help. I am conversing with Dafe at the moment and I will see if he is able to help, if not then I will call up on you.

[paddy]

I have not changed any wires or anything from when the bike was dropped off.

When I reconnected the charged battery it sparked like crazy, this is at the same time it was trying to turn over.

I think that the battery is ok.

I suspect that this was inevitable. I dont suppose I have any come back on the people I bought it off if I end up having to fork out money to fix it.

Thanks for the offer pedro. I may yet ask for some help. I am conversing with Dafe at the moment and I will see if he is able to help, if not then I will call up on you.

The sparking is just because the starter motor draws a lot of current - so that in and off itself is nothing to worry about. If it wasn't trying to turn over you wouldn't have seen that (or it would have been insignificant). A relay is a $5 part. It has moving bits inside so it can break. Don't panic all is not lost. :-)

[mr_fett01]

where abouts on the bike is the relay located?

[paddy]

where abouts on the bike is the relay located?

I don't have a GN myself (anyone else out there?) but I would expect it to be fairly near the fuse and fairly near the battery. It will look something like this:

http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2...lay-NRA04-.jpg

[mr_fett01]

OK, I see that part. I was able to take it off. When I did the engine still tried to turn over when I connected the battery. Is this normal? Will a new relay stop that from happening?

[paddy]

OK, I see that part. I was able to take it off. When I did the engine still tried to turn over when I connected the battery. Is this normal? Will a new relay stop that from happening?

It's not the relay then. This was where my earlier question about starter solenoids came from. I think you probably need a friendly KBer to stop by and take a look for you... It's a wee bit of a drive for me though. :-)

[Dafe]

I recall seeing a homeboy wiring job where the starter relay was, like someone has taped over heaps of wiring with insulation tape. You may want to see if there is a short happening in there, It's quite possible that thats all it is.

[mr_fett01]

I cant thank you people enough.

Its great to know there are people out there willing to help others. Will have another look at that wiring and see.

[mr_fett01]

I recall seeing a homeboy wiring job where the starter relay was, like someone has taped over heaps of wiring with insulation tape. You may want to see if there is a short happening in there, It's quite possible that thats all it is.

Hey,

I check the wiring near the starter relay and couldnt see any taped wiring. I would really appreciate it if you could take another look now that the battery is charged. Let me know when suits.

[Paul in NZ]

The reason the starter motor can turn over and the bike not fire is because the starter relay is giving the starter power because the circuit is sticking closed, but the ignition coil won't be firing the spark plugs because it is not connected to the dodgey relay.

Um yup - I get that but this is a new fault - not the original one...

[YellowDog]

Do try not to knacker tha battery before anyone gets there.

Download the bikes manual and try and locate the correct relay for the starter.

Maybe if you go and buy one (and some spare fuses), you will be able to marry it up with what is already there.

Good luck.

[Chrisnewtobikes]

Check the inline fuse from the battery,Iv got a gn and live in parapararumu,so not to far away,there is not much that can go wrong and should be easy to find the problemGreat bike to learn on lot of fun

[mr_fett01]

I have changed the fuse plus I have spares. I wont piss around too much with the battery until someone can have a look.

[YellowDog]

Yeah, sticking starter relay is my guess, that is why the starter motor would be turning over without the key on.

I would agree with this and I am wondering if you gave it a good thump (once you've located it), it may reset itself.

[mr_fett01]

It's not the relay then. This was where my earlier question about starter solenoids came from. I think you probably need a friendly KBer to stop by and take a look for you... It's a wee bit of a drive for me though. :-)

Thanks for the input but Paddy reckons that it is something else.