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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Metal detectors don't work on internal explosives as mentioned in the actual "News Story". The BBC is quite a good source of information because they still care about presenting a story rather than a politically biased sound bite.

    That is why the security personnel mentioned in the "News Story" are a bit worried.
    Metal detectors don't work on plastic explosives full stop. Explosives detectors do. Metal detectors would be picking up on the detonator/wiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    Metal detectors don't work on plastic explosives full stop. Explosives detectors do. Metal detectors would be picking up on the detonator/wiring.
    Read the article.

    They don't. It was a grenade, not c4 and the metal detectors STILL didn't pick it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Read the article.

    They don't. It was a grenade, not c4 and the metal detectors STILL didn't pick it up.
    Of course it didn't pick it up. The grenade was made of "pineapple"...


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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    The BBC is quite a good source of information because they still care about presenting a story rather than a politically biased sound bite.
    Definitely seconded.
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    Free prostate checks at airport security......

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Read the article.

    They don't. It was a grenade, not c4 and the metal detectors STILL didn't pick it up.
    Seems pointless continuing this but did you read the article you linked to Jim? The link doesn't mention "grenade". It mentions a device triggered by a mobile phone. Walk through Metal detectors can pick up hip and knee implants, hand helds are better still. Are they saying this is the first time anyone has ever thought of shoving an explosive/stripped down handgun up their arse to get through security? Someone or something fucked up. I spent three months in Jeddah last year - nothing & nobody worked quite as it should.

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    Security and intelligence experts are deeply worried by a new development in suicide bombing, the BBC has learned.
    It has emerged that an al-Qaeda bomber who died last month while trying to blow up a Saudi prince in Jeddah had hidden the explosives inside his body.
    Only the attacker died, but it is feared that the new development could be copied by others.
    Experts say it could have implications for airport security, rendering traditional metal detectors "useless".
    Last month's bombing left people wondering how one of the most wanted al-Qaeda operatives in Saudi Arabia could get so close to the prince in charge of counter-terrorism that he was able to blow himself up in the same room.
    Western forensic investigators think they have the answer, and it is worrying them profoundly.
    The explosives, they believe, were detonated by mobile phone.

    Prince Mohammed bin Nayef (r) was slightly injured in the attack
    Peter Neuman of Kings College London says the case will be studied intensively, and that there are "tremendous implications for airport security with the potential of making it even more complicated to get on to your plane".
    "If it really is true that the metal detectors couldn't detect this person's hidden explosive device, that would mean that the metal detectors as they currently exist in airports are pretty much useless," he said.
    The bomber was a Saudi al-Qaeda fugitive who said he wanted to give himself up to the prince in person.
    The prince took him at his word and gave him safe passage to his palace.
    But there, once he got next to his target, the bomb inside him was detonated.
    Miraculously the prince survived with minor injuries, but footage emerging this week shows a sizeable crater in the concrete floor and the bomber's body blown in half.
    It is believed the force of the blast went downwards which is why only the bomber died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Free prostate checks at airport security......
    Not so much seconded. :-/
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    So let me be sure I am getting this right... a market just opened up for high explosive butt plugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    Seems pointless continuing this but did you read the article you linked to Jim? The link doesn't mention "grenade". It mentions a device triggered by a mobile phone. Walk through Metal detectors can pick up hip and knee implants, hand helds are better still. Are they saying this is the first time anyone has ever thought of shoving an explosive/stripped down handgun up their arse to get through security? Someone or something fucked up. I spent three months in Jeddah last year - nothing & nobody worked quite as it should.

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    Security and intelligence experts are deeply worried by a new development in suicide bombing, the BBC has learned.
    It has emerged that an al-Qaeda bomber who died last month while trying to blow up a Saudi prince in Jeddah had hidden the explosives inside his body.
    Only the attacker died, but it is feared that the new development could be copied by others.
    Experts say it could have implications for airport security, rendering traditional metal detectors "useless".
    Last month's bombing left people wondering how one of the most wanted al-Qaeda operatives in Saudi Arabia could get so close to the prince in charge of counter-terrorism that he was able to blow himself up in the same room.
    Western forensic investigators think they have the answer, and it is worrying them profoundly.
    The explosives, they believe, were detonated by mobile phone.

    Prince Mohammed bin Nayef (r) was slightly injured in the attack
    Peter Neuman of Kings College London says the case will be studied intensively, and that there are "tremendous implications for airport security with the potential of making it even more complicated to get on to your plane".
    "If it really is true that the metal detectors couldn't detect this person's hidden explosive device, that would mean that the metal detectors as they currently exist in airports are pretty much useless," he said.
    The bomber was a Saudi al-Qaeda fugitive who said he wanted to give himself up to the prince in person.
    The prince took him at his word and gave him safe passage to his palace.
    But there, once he got next to his target, the bomb inside him was detonated.
    Miraculously the prince survived with minor injuries, but footage emerging this week shows a sizeable crater in the concrete floor and the bomber's body blown in half.
    It is believed the force of the blast went downwards which is why only the bomber died.
    Yes I did and I've subsequently investigated other articles which is where the grenade bit comes from. I may well be wrong, but at this stage it looks like it was a concussion grenade, which is why security experts are boggled. c4 with a remote controlled detonator would be the obvious choice, I agree.

    Now I've travelled with metalwork in bones and it doesn't set off metal detectors at airports. The metal zips in your jacket will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander View Post
    ..."Only the attacker died, but it is feared that the new development could be copied by others. "...

    Especially now that it has made headline news around the world.
    Wonder if the media ever questions the role they have played in copy cat type crimes.
    When has anyone ever seen the media question their role? They are there to make money through sensationalism rather than reporting facts... and to self promote no matter what the effects of their reporting on anything or anyone.

    The media have a lot to answer for, the sad thing is they are hard to bring to account unless its clear defamation. Apology is meaningless after the damage is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    So let me be sure I am getting this right... a market just opened up for high explosive butt plugs?
    C4 butt plug.... great for clearing those hard ones after several days of constipation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    C4 butt plug.... great for clearing those hard ones after several days of constipation.

    ... or a vigorous day packing the fudge nice and tight ...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Read the article.

    They don't. It was a grenade, not c4 and the metal detectors STILL didn't pick it up.
    Maybe the "fear the story generates" is a more "explosive power" than that of the actual device!

    Hmmm, who really benefits from articles like this?

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    You've got to give the bomber a round of applause for his effort.

    Talk about putting the fundament back into fundamentalist.
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