My wall is broken!

**moT** · 29th September 2009, 16:34

Originally Posted by SARGE

Throw a huge fuckoff party.. Charge $5 admission and thrash the place .. Theres your bond back...

lol tempting

**MSTRS:Me** · 29th September 2009, 16:34

Originally Posted by Tom

the crack is also about 30 cm long

Which would put it less than 100mm from the corner. There would 'never' be a stud in that position...no wonder it cracked. As someone else said, framing moves...voila. Crack.

**mossy1200** · 29th September 2009, 16:35

Originally Posted by Mom

The wall is damaged. Walls dont damage themselves in my experience, something, or someone, did something to cause that crack. Now, as a landlord I am not interested in the hows of it really, I simply want it back how it was, unless of course an earthquake caused it, or a car hitting the otherside of the wall caused it then I would care and claim my insurance.

Makes no mind how it happened. How big is this crack, as MSTRS says it is impossible to tell from your pics. I have let cracks in walls go before today as it could be explained by wear and tear from the building moving or what have you. Give us a birds eye view of the wall so we can see exactly how bad it is.

You will not get brownie points for repairing it and not doing a good job of it, that wall will need to be fully repainted to make it look anything like what it did before, unless you have access to the exact shade of paint it is painted and you get away with a bright, freshly painted area in the middle of the lounge room wall on final inspection. All that will happen if you do a crap job is the landlord will not accept the repair and get someone else to do it properly and you get to pay twice

I can see where your coming from but as a tradesman I would require more information on quality of construction.Able to withstand general wear and tear is a requirement of construction.A boot size whole in gib is self explained but cracks in gib seem could go either way.If a recess for a fridge has been added weakening the wall as a result then its hard to point the finger at what MAY be good tennant.
Agree.No point repairing it yourself as an unacceptable repair is the last thing you want and it leaves you in the wrong either way.Talk to your landlord and get as much info about construction before attempting any home repair jobs.
I want photo of fridge cavity.

**mossy1200** · 29th September 2009, 16:39

Originally Posted by Tom

Well on the other side of that piece of jib is the abcess for the fridge, how do i check if its a single side lined wall?

the crack is also about 30 cm long

Poke a pin in the crack and if you see it on the other side its not a timber framed wall and moving the fridge would have opened the gib seem which is not acceptable construction.

**Mom** · 29th September 2009, 16:44

Originally Posted by mossy1200

If a recess for a fridge has been added weakening the wall as a result then its hard to point the finger at what MAY be good tennant.

I agree, like I said I have let a few cracks go in my time. Let the OP decide if if is a fridge recess that caused the problem, or a friend that had a tiny bit too much to drink one night that fell into it...LOL

**moT** · 29th September 2009, 16:48

more pics.... It is definatly on a join, and the jib on the jeft seems to be furthur out than the jib on the right making a nonflush join.

**Mom** · 29th September 2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by Tom

more pics.... It is definatly on a join, and the jib on the jeft seems to be furthur out than the jib on the right making a nonflush join.

Hmmmmmmm worthy of a second look methinks. How long has that fridge recess been there do you know?

**moT** · 29th September 2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Poke a pin in the crack and if you see it on the other side its not a timber framed wall and moving the fridge would have opened the gib seem which is not acceptable construction.

There does seem to be a piece of wood behind the pieces of jib but as i mentioned before the 2 pieces are at different levels, which looks like it would make the plaster or paint weaker on the surface.

**SARGE** · 29th September 2009, 16:50

Originally Posted by Tom

lol tempting

go on ... GET A PERRRM

**mossy1200** · 29th September 2009, 16:51

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Which would put it less than 100mm from the corner. There would 'never' be a stud in that position...no wonder it cracked. As someone else said, framing moves...voila. Crack.

Not always so .New costruction studs are 600 apart and old can be 500 but its up to the builder at which end of each wall he starts the framing so it may have started the other end.Also old houses had sarking istead of gib then a renovator pulls this off and installs gib that doesnt match the spacing of the older gapped studs.In this case then the gib should be cut to suit studs but this wastes gib so isnt always done.Sometimes refurbed houses have gib intalled on its side to minimise wastage as two sheet sideways means less offcuts buy reaching more 500mm studs per sheet.

**Mom** · 29th September 2009, 16:51

Originally Posted by Tom

There does seem to be a piece of wood behind the pieces of jib but as i mentioned before the 2 pieces are at different levels, which looks like it would make the plaster or paint weaker on the surface.

Did someone fall into it though?