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    Question YSS suspension brand?

    I'm not in the market anymore for shocks/forks etc, as RT has sorted my bikes, but another brand is starting to emerge out of Thailand called YSS.
    The Aussies have started to distribute them, and some decent feed back is burbling to the top.

    www.yss-suspension.com

    OK, what you pay is what you get, and after sales service in NZ is probably nil, but some decent Oz talent has put a fair bit of input into the specs, and if QC is maintained, maybe they might be OK.

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    see what happens with them in racing circles...even if they are a high spec unit...well engineered etc...don't mean the perform the correct function...
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    looks like they only really do models for older style of bikes.

    i see there is one there for vfr400 which might please some peopel

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    see what happens with them in racing circles...even if they are a high spec unit...well engineered etc...don't mean the perform the correct function...


    Guess that must be why you had to have your unit revalved to work for you then eh, not like those bloody things that Stroud won a heap of nz Super bike titles on eh, un touched out of the box apart from spring.

    But the real value of O, is the fact that we have Robert here to mod them to suit the NZ enviroment, be it road or track
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Guess that must be why you had to have your unit revalved to work for you then eh, not like those bloody things that Stroud won a heap of nz Super bike titles on eh, un touched out of the box apart from spring.

    But the real value of O, is the fact that we have Robert here to mod them to suit the NZ enviroment, be it road or track
    I had my unit re-valved via robert taylor...[the same guy thats been changing the valving in shirriffs,sam smiths,strouds,mair,and many many more rider's shocks in the past few months to get their bikes handling to there best] because it was blowing through its stroke to fast under power...is that not the correct thing to do?? I'm actually not even sure what your getting at?? andrew had some great sucess with white power equipment and is now using ohlins..which is what I have [ohlins]..and valving should be altered for rider weight/bike setup/bike output.

    What I was getting at in reguard to my post...was in the grand scheme of things theres only a handful of suspension companies competing in premier racing level worldwide...and then theres a few specilist companys [maxton,k-tech,traxxion dynamics,race-tech] who also supply components to national [and most definatly international] racers and road riders ,whom are very well known and trusted and who's products are used by professional suspension tuners...my point was...they are new...and relitivly unknown...they maybe the next big thing...BUT...who's using their gear in racing at national level in any country??? at the moment..and they may be well engineered..but so are alot of things..it doesn't mean that they work as well as they are made..I never implied anything else.
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    I'm pretty sure they are a long way off from being a true international title winner, but it's pretty cool to see guys like Robbie Phillis campaigning a post classic on them, and it looks like a McIntosh Suzuki getting pushed along in one of their photo's.
    It seems they are trying to position themselves above company's like Hagon, and a bit below WP and Ohlins.
    Either way, I guess they will find a market with road riders, classics, dirt/trail guys.
    Henry Essen, (owner of Dutch Firm "Technoflex") is involved, I understand he's not too shabby at designing gas struts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun View Post
    looks like they only really do models for older style of bikes.

    i see there is one there for vfr400 which might please some peopel

    Robert Taylor built me a shock for a VFR400 about a month ago...
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    Stroud won a heap of nz Super bike titles on eh, un touched out of the box apart from spring.




    But the real value of O, is the fact that we have Robert here to mod them to suit the NZ enviroment, be it road or track

    I was in no way saying anything negative about any one or any product

    I had my unit re-valved via robert taylor...[the same guy thats been changing the valving in shirriffs,sam smiths,strouds,mair,and many many more rider's shocks in the past few months to get their bikes handling to there best] because it was blowing through its stroke to fast under power


    Just read what I said mate, then you may understand
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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    I'm pretty sure they are a long way off from being a true international title winner, but it's pretty cool to see guys like Robbie Phillis campaigning a post classic on them, and it looks like a McIntosh Suzuki getting pushed along in one of their photo's.
    It seems they are trying to position themselves above company's like Hagon, and a bit below WP and Ohlins.
    Either way, I guess they will find a market with road riders, classics, dirt/trail guys.
    Henry Essen, (owner of Dutch Firm "Technoflex") is involved, I understand he's not too shabby at designing gas struts.
    Robbie Phillis first choice was Ohlins but he wanted the Aussie distributor to virtually give them to him, so the door was politely closed.

    Cannot answer directly about YSS but I wouldnt be surprised if many of the components are oh so close to Ohlins twin shock design, copied profusely over the years in both hemispheres.

    A number of Thai companies have been committing copyright infringement and Ohlins have a full time staff member engaged in dealing with this insidious activity. 7% of the worlds economy is piracy, most of it coming out of the east.

    Years ago WP ripped off the 1st generation Ohlins PDS design resulting in a court case that Ohlins comprehensively won.

    Its easy to copy someone elses hard work and development that they incurred considerable cost in doing....

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    You might have a valid point Robert with regards to copy infringements with many companies.
    But I would think H Essen wouldn't need to lower himself to such standards. After all, isn't he considered to be one of the main developers of High/Low compression dampner systems?
    Thanks for the info on R Phillis. Once a racer, always a racer aye. (trying to get equipment/services for free).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    You might have a valid point Robert with regards to copy infringements with many companies.
    But I would think H Essen wouldn't need to lower himself to such standards. After all, isn't he considered to be one of the main developers of High/Low compression dampner systems?
    Thanks for the info on R Phillis. Once a racer, always a racer aye. (trying to get equipment/services for free).
    Note that independent hi / lo speed comp adjustment is falling out of favour.

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    How does seperate hi/lo speed damping work?? I know the low speed is adjusted via the needle inside the shaft like everything else, but does the high speed damping adjuster work on the shim stack or something??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mental-Trousers View Post
    How does seperate hi/lo speed damping work?? I know the low speed is adjusted via the needle inside the shaft like everything else, but does the high speed damping adjuster work on the shim stack or something??
    Several ways of skinning the cat, when I have time I will explain. Dont hold your breath waiting...

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    Heh, sweet as
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Guess that must be why you had to have your unit revalved to work for you then eh, not like those bloody things that Stroud won a heap of nz Super bike titles on eh, un touched out of the box apart from spring.

    But the real value of O, is the fact that we have Robert here to mod them to suit the NZ enviroment, be it road or track
    You know as well as I do that this had most to do with the rider. When Stroudy met his match last season ( Bugden ) his equipment was found to be a little wanting. ( Dont forget Tony Rees title in 05, however the ''allocation'' of it is viewed Tony was his match )For this season Stroudy has lifted his game and I wish him and all the other equipped riders who have chosen a product with backup the very best.

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