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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    Hope you are not too crook mate, its an expensive bummer being sick these days !

    We can't solve the problem by pouring more money into health, as it will simply push the wages of those you describe at the top of the queue up and up, without reducing the queue !

    IMHO the answer is simple.

    Stop artificially limiting intakes to medical school.

    Train everyone that wants to go, as long as they are bright enough.

    Make 'em pay their own way, so if the F. Off to the US they dont take my tax dollars, and give 'em a tax break if they stay.
    They want to. To give you an idea, only the top 1% get to apply to even go to med school and of that, only the top 10% actually get in. Thus, the cut off limit is so fine that many brilliant students can't get in.
    The issue with training more doctors (in Auckland at least) is that they do not physically have the space to train them. Another med school needs to be built. Wellington is ideally placed but from what I understand the red tape is the issue.
    The issues run much deeper than just doctors 'overcharging' and saying 'train more doctors'. The DHB's are the ones who seem unwilling to come to the party in any capacity that will make a difference.

    As for wages, those you are talking about are in PRIVATE practise, not public thus your tax money has nothing to do with it. If you want to/need to see a consultant/specialist who is private, it is like any other business unfortuanately, they charge what they deem fit for their services.

    To give some perspective on the issue, a junior doctor will work around 80hrs per week depending on the category of their run, and for this they will be paid around $80k. Senior doctors or consultants depending whether they are senior registrars or consultants will earn between $110k and $180k depending on their role.
    In any case, of all of the doctors that I know, not one of them got into it for the money and money is not the motivating factor. The real issues with the DHB's are unsafe working environments.

    Anyway, yes...any private health care be it a doctor or a dentist or whatever is expensive...and it does suck to have to pay for these kinds of bills, especially at a time like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    take whoever had the capability and the cash, being universities.

    I'm not anti interest free student loans (that's the same as your tax break, I guess), but am anti repayments being waived/suspended if the grad goes overseas to work. Take the loan, work and pay it off, wherever you are working. Shit, at her chargeout rate she could probably do that in a few weeks!
    But that is the case with any student loan, go overseas and the interest free arrangement ceases...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post

    Really? Last time I was a member of SX their top dental cover was about $400/yr, in exchange for a premium uplift of about the same. And at that rate I would be 80 before I worked through the latest quote for the list of things I need done.
    Dental is. Surgical cover on the other hand is a great deal more. "Dear Dentist, can I please have a referral to a dental surgeon to get my teeth removed."

    Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

    "Of course my Dear Patient."

    Got it all pre-approved too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    But that is the case with any student loan, go overseas and the interest free arrangement ceases...
    Ah. For some reason I thought that going overseas meant people just stopped paying. Consider me educated. Thank you.
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    Hey - all this stuff is CHEAP...it cost me $450 to get the vet to clean my pussycat's teeth last month...
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    Move to an area where your visit to your GP is free (its free here) but be warned you get what you pay for lol

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