Barack Hussein Obama gets Nobel Peace Prize

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 10th October 2009, 18:39

Originally Posted by MisterD

Given that nominations closed a whole two weeks after BHO was sworn in, that's an understatement. It's hard to see this as anything other than European lefties having a final pop at the last president, pretty pathetic really.

Originally Posted by Ms Piggy

Yes, I was actually wondering the same thing. It appears he is an awesome man and has succeeded in becoming the 1st black President but I don't think that on it's own should make for him winning a Nobel Peace Prize.

I have to agree.
I struggle to see how he has achieved this honour, surley its based on achievements and not claims on what he intends/hopes to do?

**ital916** · 10th October 2009, 21:03

I think it is sad people are slaggin him off for getting it.

Unexpected yes. Underserved no. He has done stuff before his presidency and during the last few months, he has done all in his power to pull a country out of recessions, fix a failing health care system, he has never brought his skin coulour into it. He has had to right the wrongs of eight years of presidency of an idiot, stop a current war and prevent two others with iran and north korea. He is fighting to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons, has boosted trade with other nations, is working on bettering relations with asian nations, the list goes on. Yes he has been a president a short while, but time does not dictate the magnitude of ones actions. I hope he gets a second term, he is what america had needed.

**alanzs** · 10th October 2009, 23:13

Originally Posted by ital916

I think it is sad people are slaggin him off for getting it.

Unexpected yes. Underserved no. He has done stuff before his presidency and during the last few months, he has done all in his power to pull a country out of recessions, fix a failing health care system, he has never brought his skin coulour into it. He has had to right the wrongs of eight years of presidency of an idiot, stop a current war and prevent two others with iran and north korea. He is fighting to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons, has boosted trade with other nations, is working on bettering relations with asian nations, the list goes on. Yes he has been a president a short while, but time does not dictate the magnitude of ones actions. I hope he gets a second term, he is what america had needed.

It is more than just what America needs, it is what the world needs. The Bush administration was a bloody train wreck for the US, and the world. While we may not all like it, the US is the largest military and, for now, economic power there is. The US was completely screwed by Bush and company. I likened it to lending someone your car and they return it destroyed and owing money on it.

Bottom line, do we want the US being the leader or China? While we may chuff at the idea of a "leader" that's reality. Even though we are a small nation in the bottom of the pacific, WE are all in the same world...

**Mort** · 11th October 2009, 00:09

Good on him and well deserved. He has made many actions to change the status of many disputes...

- Clearly differentiates his administration from the previous one by deed and implication and as a result reduced tension in a number of foreign policy issue.
- Removed/defused the main dispute with Russia over Anti Ballistic missiles.
- Reduced tension and opened the door to talks with N. Korea.
- Immediately addressed outstanding issues with Israel to lessen tension over Iran (an attack was imminent)
- Visit West Africa and promise support and boost profile
- Open the door with Iran whilst holding the big stick.
- Made a measured and not excessive move on boosting Afghanistan Army presence.
- Didn't piss off China by welcoming the DahLi Lama.... smart move.
- Opened the door to normal relations with Cuba
- Made significant moves towards nuclear weapons reductions in the near future.

Not a bad first 6 months in my opinion and more worthy than most . Plenty of boxes ticked. So far he hasn't put a foot wrong IMHO. Bold and progressive policies without regard for legacy, but addressing the current situation. Its what an election is all about. Make a change.

There is no doubt he has aggressively addressed the failings of the previous government. It appears that his overall goal is understanding, engagement and reduced confrontation. I see a much smarter view on US foreign policy.

Based on the above...I cant think of anyone who, in this last year, deserves it more. Good for him and the US.

**SPman** · 11th October 2009, 01:48

Originally Posted by Marmoot

And he's trying to stop one.

Which one? - he seems to be escalating Afghanistan!

**SPman** · 11th October 2009, 01:50

Originally Posted by SPORK

Really? That was unexpected (haven't looked to see if this is a pisstake or not). Shutting down Guantanamo Bay was a brilliant start, though.

But it's still going strong. Shut down? Not at the moment!

**Grahameeboy** · 11th October 2009, 05:51

Originally Posted by SPman

Which one? - he seems to be escalating Afghanistan!

Possibly to achieve peace...............

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 11th October 2009, 06:03

Originally Posted by Mort

Good on him and well deserved. He has made many actions to change the status of many disputes...

Not a bad first 6 months in my opinion and more worthy than most . Plenty of boxes ticked. So far he hasn't put a foot wrong IMHO. Bold and progressive policies without regard for legacy, but addressing the current situation. Its what an election is all about. Make a change.

Based on the above...I cant think of anyone who, in this last year, deserves it more. Good for him and the US.

If it is to be belived: He was nominated for this award 2 weeks into his presidency.

Agreed he is a breath of fresh air for America and I hate to say the rest of the world but................was he really the best nominated?

Isn't it about achievements and not about what you want to achieve regardles of your position?

**Hans** · 11th October 2009, 10:29

Originally Posted by Mort

Good on him and well deserved. He has made many actions to change the status of many disputes...

- Clearly differentiates his administration from the previous one by deed and implication and as a result reduced tension in a number of foreign policy issue.
- Removed/defused the main dispute with Russia over Anti Ballistic missiles.
- Reduced tension and opened the door to talks with N. Korea.
- Immediately addressed outstanding issues with Israel to lessen tension over Iran (an attack was imminent)
- Visit West Africa and promise support and boost profile
- Open the door with Iran whilst holding the big stick.
- Made a measured and not excessive move on boosting Afghanistan Army presence.
- Didn't piss off China by welcoming the DahLi Lama.... smart move.
- Opened the door to normal relations with Cuba
- Made significant moves towards nuclear weapons reductions in the near future.

Not a bad first 6 months in my opinion and more worthy than most . Plenty of boxes ticked. So far he hasn't put a foot wrong IMHO. Bold and progressive policies without regard for legacy, but addressing the current situation. Its what an election is all about. Make a change.

There is no doubt he has aggressively addressed the failings of the previous government. It appears that his overall goal is understanding, engagement and reduced confrontation. I see a much smarter view on US foreign policy.

Based on the above...I cant think of anyone who, in this last year, deserves it more. Good for him and the US.

The problem is, that with the exception of one, all the points you have stated are actually dangerous mistakes. At least IMHO.

**SixPackBack** · 11th October 2009, 10:46

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Possibly to achieve peace...............

Uhhu.............Fighting for peace=fucking for virginity!

**scumdog** · 11th October 2009, 10:49

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Uhhu.............Fighting for peace=fucking for virginity!

Yup, best to lie back and let them fuck you over, saves a lot of bruising...

**wbks** · 11th October 2009, 10:51

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Uhhu.............Fighting for peace=fucking for virginity!

Every time I read one of your posts I swear my hope for NZ goes down a little

**SixPackBack** · 11th October 2009, 11:04

Originally Posted by wbks

Every time I read one of your posts I swear my hope for NZ goes down a little

Awesome. As you are probably aware your opinion means SO much to me and many others on KB.

**wbks** · 11th October 2009, 11:09

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Awesome. As you are probably aware your opinion means SO much to me and many others on KB.

And as you are probably aware you are a dumbass. Sounds too simple? Its not

**Street Gerbil** · 11th October 2009, 11:35

Originally Posted by Hans

- Clearly differentiates his administration from the previous one by deed and implication and as a result reduced tension in a number of foreign policy issue.
- Removed/defused the main dispute with Russia over Anti Ballistic missiles.
- Reduced tension and opened the door to talks with N. Korea.
- Immediately addressed outstanding issues with Israel to lessen tension over Iran (an attack was imminent)
- Visit West Africa and promise support and boost profile
- Open the door with Iran whilst holding the big stick.
- Made a measured and not excessive move on boosting Afghanistan Army presence.
- Didn't piss off China by welcoming the DahLi Lama.... smart move.
- Opened the door to normal relations with Cuba
- Made significant moves towards nuclear weapons reductions in the near future.

The problem is, that with the exception of one, all the points you have stated are actually dangerous mistakes. At least IMHO.

Ugh... which one? I think they are all picture perfect examples of dumb moves.