A question about staggered riding in a group

[sunhuntin]

I'm with ya there Pete. I have done a few large group rides and charity rides etc and after the last one I went on I swore to never again. The riding I saw disgusted me and generally just made me angry and afraid for my life. Never again, no matter how good the cause. Grumpy over and out.

fully agreed. i used to do a charity ride each year that would sometimes have over 100 participants. the rules were read out before we would leave, and the rules would be ignored as soon as we hit the open road. i quickly learned to ride in the left column, as the right was too close to idiots passing on one wheel etc. i also disliked the fact that the final destination was a pub, and the ride back was often not the safest.

now i limit myself to funeral rides where i can be reasonably sure that the rules will be adhered to out of respect if nothing else.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

It's just motorcycle riding - it doesn't need to be that regimented.

If you are bored where you are, then move. If you want a turn up front, go for it.

If you are bored with swapping left to right, then do either or neither for a while - it doesnt affect anyone, unless you are riding real tight, then rules must be abided by.

Geez its just a fucking stroll in the countryside - enjoy it and ride where you are happy, and if the others have a moan about it then ride with someone else.

Its not rocket science - It's motorcycle ride. Relax.

You are kidding right... ???

[MadDuck]

It's just motorcycle riding - it doesn't need to be that regimented.

If you are bored where you are, then move. If you want a turn up front, go for it.

If you are bored with swapping left to right, then do either or neither for a while - it doesnt affect anyone, unless you are riding real tight, then rules must be abided by.

Geez its just a fucking stroll in the countryside - enjoy it and ride where you are happy, and if the others have a moan about it then ride with someone else.

Its not rocket science - It's motorcycle ride. Relax.

Steve

Once again, this poster is giving out advice that is blatantly dangerous. I would advise anyone reading posts from this person to disregard anything said unless backed up by someone competent. As can be seen in DBs signature this has only happened once in the whole time he's been on this site.

If this advice is considered "blatently dangerous" then why does it remain in a general forum for all to see?

[MSTRS:Me]

You are kidding right... ???

The sad thing is - he's not. He seems to actually believe his own bullshit.
I'm with Jantar...and advise any/everyone reading it, to ignore DB's crap.

[MSTRS:Me]

If this advice is considered "blatently dangerous" then why does it remain in a general forum for all to see?

You do remember what happened to the last mod with the balls to do that?

[Mom]

Once again, this poster is giving out advice that is blatantly dangerous. I would advise anyone reading posts from this person to disregard anything said unless backed up by someone competent. As can be seen in DBs signature this has only happened once in the whole time he's been on this site.

Dear God! I can not believe I just read that!

This man is the worst kind of troll.

[rosie631]

Once again, this poster is giving out advice that is blatantly dangerous. I would advise anyone reading posts from this person to disregard anything said unless backed up by someone competent. As can be seen in DBs signature this has only happened once in the whole time he's been on this site.

Agreed. If people followed his advice on a ride this size it would be mayhem.

[MadDuck]

You do remember what happened to the last mod with the balls to do that?

Ahhh yes I do! Fair comment.

[CookMySock]

Once again, this poster is giving out advice that is blatantly dangerous. I would advise anyone reading posts from this person to disregard anything said unless backed up by someone competent. As can be seen in DBs signature this has only happened once in the whole time he's been on this site.

LOL. The technique Jantar is using to persuade you is called a Logical Fallacy. He appeals to your sense of logic, in that one instance of support for my opinion must mean there IS only one instance of it. Of course, such a blatant attempt carries no more weight than my opinion did to begin with.

If you cannot safely pass any person in your group, then there is something really wrong with the group thinking. There is no basis in logic or law for such a thing, except to allow the group safety so they do not need to look in their mirrors. This argument smacks in the face of the individualism that is the core of the biker ethic, and replaces it with with gang mentality "no one can get past us."

Think for yourself. Ride your own ride. Pass if it looks safe. Decide on the basis of logic.

edit: I just re-read the original post, and we are talking 50+ riders. I'll recant 50% of what I said - I have just been reading about small groups. My error. Doing what I suggested in 50+ riders is asking for trouble.

Steve

[MadDuck]

My error. Doing what I suggested in 50+ riders is asking for trouble.

Steve

No shit Batman!

There are those of us who dont hit the "red bling" button as quickly as you do as we have the ability to discuss and agree or disagree without hiding behind the bling system and its nasty comments.

[Virago]

...Think for yourself. Ride your own ride. Pass if it looks safe. Decide on the basis of logic...

As always, you are entitled to express your opinions, no matter how dangerous or idiotic your advice.

For the Moderators, the frustration lies in having to respond to your constant whining, when you receive abuse which you so richly deserve.

The fact remains that you are a menace to society.

[Maha]

As always, you are entitled to express your opinions, no matter how dangerous or idiotic your advice.

For the Moderators, the frustration lies in having to respond to your constant whining, when you receive abuse which you so richly deserve.

The fact remains that you are a menace to society.

what can I say but ...

[rosie631]

My error. Doing what I suggested in 50+ riders is asking for trouble.

Steve

What we said lol

[scumdog]

LOL. The technique Jantar is using to persuade you is called a Logical Fallacy. He appeals to your sense of logic, in that one instance of support for my opinion must mean there IS only one instance of it. Of course, such a blatant attempt carries no more weight than my opinion did to begin with.

If you cannot safely pass any person in your group, then there is something really wrong with the group thinking. There is no basis in logic or law for such a thing, except to allow the group safety so they do not need to look in their mirrors. This argument smacks in the face of the individualism that is the core of the biker ethic, and replaces it with with gang mentality "no one can get past us."

Think for yourself. Ride your own ride. Pass if it looks safe. Decide on the basis of logic.

edit: I just re-read the original post, and we are talking 50+ riders. I'll recant 50% of what I said - I have just been reading about small groups. My error. Doing what I suggested in 50+ riders is asking for trouble.

Steve

Hmm, hopefully you don't have to 'edit' your decisions constantly while riding and overtaking etc....that you in fact read the info correctly before you act.


Mis-reading a car is stopping/turning when it's unexpected can lead to tears...

[sinfull]

Once again, this poster is giving out advice that is blatantly dangerous. I would advise anyone reading posts from this person to disregard anything said unless backed up by someone competent. As can be seen in DBs signature this has only happened once in the whole time he's been on this site.

And It's now a sig !! Watch this space !!!

You are kidding right... ???

If this advice is considered "blatently dangerous" then why does it remain in a general forum for all to see?

Hello !!!

The sad thing is - he's not. He seems to actually believe his own bullshit.
I'm with Jantar...and advise any/everyone reading it, to ignore DB's crap.

But read it !!

LOL. The technique Jantar is using to persuade you is called a Logical Fallacy. He appeals to your sense of logic, in that one instance of support for my opinion must mean there IS only one instance of it. Of course, such a blatant attempt carries no more weight than my opinion did to begin with.

If you cannot safely pass any person in your group, then there is something really wrong with the group thinking. There is no basis in logic or law for such a thing, except to allow the group safety so they do not need to look in their mirrors. This argument smacks in the face of the individualism that is the core of the biker ethic, and replaces it with with gang mentality "no one can get past us."
Think for yourself. Ride your own ride. Pass if it looks safe. Decide on the basis of logic.

edit: I just re-read the original post, and we are talking 50+ riders. I'll recant 50% of what I said - I have just been reading about small groups. My error. Doing what I suggested in 50+ riders is asking for trouble.Steve

You keep reading mate, reading is good ! Typing is something you should leave to others !!!

Woooo just seen you on TV, you warlock you !!! Biggest wee wee programe i've seen in ages !

Cmon, wheres all my red rep, you fags. I expected a fucking sea of it by now. You're slipping.

Steve

Hahaha Steve Steve Steve you should have been there with us today, you individuallistic attitude would have found you riding alone !