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    GSXR750 noise

    Hi guys,

    My old 1987 oil boiler is giving me grief in spades, got ~80,000kms on the clock. Got it with lowish compression on cyl one, and intermittent 3/4cyl running.

    Traced it down to leaking exhaust valve and remedied that, had good compression across the board after that, and some money later

    so once it was sorted, I stuck the head etc back on redid the valve clearance and bobs ya mothers brother, went like a cut cat and I was a happy chappy.

    Now one week after this, I was letting a friend try the bike out and I pulled up next to him on moorhouse ave after going round the hills (on my other bike) and noticed a loud metallic pinging/grinding noise from the engine

    He said it was still running fine, powerwise etc not sure what was going on. So we got it home and it sounded terrible. Imagine like a stone has made its way into the inside of the frame and is rattling about - or the exhaust baffle was gone.


    But it's neither, after checking those out i was getting a little worried - I rode it to my parents (5mins away) to show my dad a week or two later and noticed it was on 3cylinders once again


    Drained oil, after pulling starter motor (got that refurbed as it had just died) and noticed a small trace amount of metal paste in the bottom of the oil - only a few mils and not concentrated, more spread thru the oil finely.


    Noise is def from down low in the bike, top end is fine - I pulled the rocker cover again to check the cam chain wasn't loose somehow and mashing about, it's not.


    Big end bearings, clutch somehow eating itself? where should I begin gixxer gurus??

    Exhaust and sump will be coming off at somepoint in the nearish future now i've got the starter back

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    Flick it off and buy a Yamaha. Just so happens I no some one got an R6 for sale.

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    Haha, rather stick with what i've got. At least by the end of this crap i'll have a known good engine. Nice bike though mate.

    Any mechanical advice welcome guys

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    metallic pinging... yeesh.

    If you suspect its coming from down low the first place to start is to whip off the crank side covers and have a looksee. Might be big end... Take a look at the XS650 engine rattle thread on how to check your big end bearings without tearing apart your engine.

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    that's the problem with tidying up the top end and not the bottom and at the same time.

    a bearing is more ngunga ngunga ngunga.....

    sounds more like oil pump disintegrating or wet clutch falling apart. pull it down and look - it won't get better by itself.

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    Oh yeah for sure guys, it'll be getting pulled down or at least not ridden until its fixed one way or another.

    I might be able to get a recording of the sound, but that would require starting which im not super fond of. Might go see if i cant get partway thru getting the exhaust off or something tonight

    I'll go check that 650 thread now, thanks guys!

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    Right well i've got my starter back in, checked compression on cyl.1

    Seemed pretty good considering the it was cold so I don't think thats related. Noise was still there so I got a clip of it, I've got the mp3 and also video of it.

    I'll attach the mp3 file as something thats allowed just remove the .doc off the end of it or drag it into your player of choice.

    Ideas?? Now the starter is back and i've satisfied myself for the cyl.1 I think i'll pull the sump off in the coming weekend. Anything that can lead me to the correct direction is appreciated though, if you've heard it before or similar I wanna know!

    Gsxr750.mp3.doc

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    For those who were wondering
    I pulled the head, checked valves and not leaking. I then noticed that TDC for cylinder 1 was 0.5cm lower than for cyilnder 4 off with the jugs, no bearing play but a nicely bent rod instead. engines out the bike now, so i'll just have to find a replacement and see. Sump pickup had a freaking washer in it too, which was probably the rattle - god only knows how it made its way in..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FruitLooPs View Post
    but a nicely bent rod instead.
    Ah well at least it wasnt poking out of the casings


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    Jaysus! How'd that happen? Somebody put an iron door-stop in the combustion chamber?

    Can you just get a new con-rod, or do they have to be a matched set with multis?

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    Another gsxr enthusiast just happens to have a spare rod that I can get very cheap off him, and yes they are interchangeable.

    Will need to resort bearings etc and I too wouldn't mind knowing how I managed to bend it. Hydrolocking would be the most common way, but I don't recall that happening and cyl.1 carb doesn't flood fuel anywhere. Will get new one and my other three crack tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
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    a bearing is more ngunga ngunga ngunga.....

    I just love it when you talk dirty. Lol
    Caution is not a substitute for skill :no

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    It doesn't have a couple of valve dents in the top of it?

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    Nope, which was the first thing I was looking for since I'd just had the heads re-done for a leaking exhaust valve.


    Doesn't look like its contacted since the head was put on with the new valves, and they seal just fine. The noise (and presumably the rod) started making the noise out during a ride around the port hills, by my friend - which wasn't very spirited either, I was tagging along on the RG150.

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    bit strange was it pinging detonating etc?

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