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    New chain troubles

    I'm currently struggling to get a new chain on my GN250 and the instructions it came with are super-vague.

    It has a clip, and as i dont have a fancy chain riveter tool thingy i thought that the clip would do fine. Except i cant get the damned thing on, so quick question...

    Am i supposed to put the other side of the connecting link on, and then the clip? Because the damned thing wont get on... or do i just use the clip? (I doubt it, seems incredibly dodgy!!)

    Thanx in advance

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    Yes, you definitly need both sides of the link! Then the clip holds the other side.

    Chains are a pain...have fun!
    Also there is a specific direction the clip must point in - open end towards the back wheel on the top run of the chain I think.
    As for getting the clip on...pinch the link with pliers to get more room? I've only ever used rivet links...
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    You have a connecting link to join the two ends together I assume? You, use the open linked joiner to join the ends of the chain together and then you have to use a bit of brute strength and push the clip supplied op over the lugs that protrude from the joiner link. God that sounded really vague, sorry. The joiner link should have a slot on the pins that the clip slides into. Those slots whould be just proud of the chain links you are joining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    You have a connecting link to join the two ends together I assume? You, use the open linked joiner to join the ends of the chain together and then you have to use a bit of brute strength and push the clip supplied op over the lugs that protrude from the joiner link. God that sounded really vague, sorry. The joiner link should have a slot on the pins that the clip slides into. Those slots whould be just proud of the chain links you are joining.
    Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

    The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip

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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

    The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip
    I put a nut over the protruding shaft that the circlip goes onto then squeeze one at a time bit by bit alternating from one to the other.Then your squeezing the nut not bending the links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

    The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip
    Done heaps of these in the past when all chains were clipped together. They can be a bugger to get sorted.

    The bit that fits over the two legs of the joiner thingy - "outer half of the link" as you call it - has to be dead straight to go on properly - if it is at all crooked, it won't sit fully on. You might have to fart around with it for quite some time. But it WILL go on properly if it is lined up straight. It must sit over the two legs evenly - can't be more down one leg than the other.

    When you finally get to put the clip on, you do need quite a lot of force to get it to close properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.

    The problem is the outer half of the link doesnt sit in far enough to uncover the slots for the clip
    Did you buy the joining link seperately? There is an outside chance you have a diffent sized link than the chain supplied
    It (the slot) will be visible, but only just, and yes you will have to use some strength to clip it tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Yeah, i get that... problem is... the slot isnt just proud, maybe i just need to be braver with the pliers.. just didnt want to break anything.
    When I did mine I put a piece of wood on each side of my chain with holes drilled to line up with the pins, then I used a small vice to squish it all together. It took a LOT of force. I too was worried about breaking it but it seems fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy View Post
    I put a piece of wood on each side of my chain with holes drilled to line up with the pins, then I used a small vice to squish it all together. It took a LOT of force. I too was worried about breaking it but it seems fine.
    Now make sure the closed end of the clip faces towards the chain travel direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Now make sure the closed end of the clip faces towards the chain travel direction.
    Wot 'e said...MOST important!! Shoulda mentioned it meself...
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    Yep, clip is on - sortof - and facing the correct direction. It doesnt quite sit correctly on the open end of the clip, but i cant seem to get it to budge any further...

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    Sort of is not how it should be, it should take at least the same or more amount of force to remove the sucker again, dont for heavens sake think "sort of" is ok will you?

    Surely someone down there will see this soon and pop over to see it is on tight for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Sort of is not how it should be, it should take at least the same or more amount of force to remove the sucker again, dont for heavens sake think "sort of" is ok will you?

    Surely someone down there will see this soon and pop over to see it is on tight for you.
    I thought so

    All because i never even realised what went into looking after a bike... one of the bearings on a roller disentegrated, allowing one half of the link to sit beside the other on the original chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    Yep, clip is on - sortof - and facing the correct direction. It doesnt quite sit correctly on the open end of the clip, but i cant seem to get it to budge any further...
    If you havent quite got it correct then most likely one clip end will click in and the other wont.You need my sqeeze a small nut technic.The wood wouldnt have been hard enough contact surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    I thought so

    All because i never even realised what went into looking after a bike... one of the bearings on a roller disentegrated, allowing one half of the link to sit beside the other on the original chain
    What are your sprokets like?
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