Weatherston to appeal sentence

[mynameis]

Meh. The guy's mad. At best he'll get no. At worst he'll get more time.

He just wants the attention.

+1 Yeap he's just a little bit cookoo

[ManDownUnder]

Someone recently appealed their sentence and got a longer term. Here's hoping and with luck etc.

Clark's role at the UN?

[Grumpy Gnomb]

perhaps we should follow the lead set by China, where if a person is found guilty and given the death penalty they than take them out and put a bullet in the head. Guess that would stop anybody doing appeals

[gtr boy]

gotta agree there.problem gone and solved all in one

[vifferman]

You guys are all in the shit!
The Legal Beagles (the Beagle Boys' cousins) are investigating whether "social networking sites" (like KB) were in contempt of court for people posting shit like "That Cunt Weatherstone dun it awright".

[SS90]

Good point Vifferman.

I see their point.

It makes me think though, Yes, He did it (of that there is no doubt), and his defence was that "he was provoked".

Now, I am unsure if there has been any discussion on the point that him asserting this defence argument could well be used for a new strategy of "mentally incompetent".

It is clear for anyone reading just small amounts of his testimony that he shows very clear signs of Narscisic behaviour (of course this requires diagnosis from a group of professionals rather than the general public, but I am sure the consensus of the general public is spot on.

So, you have a Narcissic man who has stabbed a woman (his partner) over 200 times, who then sits in front of the whole country (as well he should) and precedes to tell NZ that "she provoked him"

over 200 times

over 200 fucking hundred times.

Was it premeditated? probably not.

He stabbed that Woman over 200 times and then proceeds to tell us all "she provoked me"

If you just step back from the personal hate we all share for this oxygen thief, and think about the type of person that he has to be.

I am of the opinion he feels (yes, still feels) he can get away with it, so, he is attempting an appeal.

Yes, it will cost the NZ tax payer a fortune (just to lodge an appeal, even if it is granted or not), but wait, is that so bad?

I see it as an investment.

As NZ society changes, as we all crave "more than our neighbour", the little Clayton Weatherston hiding inside (some) Kiwi's starts "bubbling to the surface"

NZ is (quickly) becoming a "me me me me" society, and Narcissic behaviour is becoming more and more prevalent.

I say put the man on a retrial, show all NZ that "you CANNOT get away with murder", give him more attention, fill his egoistic cup until it "runneth over", just, at the end of the retrial for the Judge to say "back you go, Ginger Tosser", and lock him up again.

My heart truly goes out to the Family of his Victim, but her death should not be in vain, keep this little gnome in the public eye, some may say that is what his Narcissic soul want's, and not to give it to him, but I say YES, he needs to be made an example of so that people who have the possibilty of turning out like him learn from his mistake.

I have no experience with Prison, but I have been told "it's no holiday camp for people like Clayton Weatherstone (etc)"

I am pretty sure he will be on some sort of "protective custody" (to keep him from being harmed), but that won't keep him safe, shit happens aye.

There is a little "executioner" in all of us that just want's the Fucker dead, part of me as well, but that won't bring the victim back, and that simply takes away his punishment.

spending the next few decades in prison is far far worse than death.

As soon as the first opportunity presents itself he will be severely beaten, and "whatever" (etc), the natural Justice metered out in prison to people like him is worse than death for a Narcissist.

He will be ruled by FEAR, he is in a world he has no control, no power, no influence ever, with anyone, at anytime.

How else can you punish someone who has demonstrated that control is the most important thing to him.

Narcissists also control people by confusing them (to make them more "supple" to "suggestions")

What is more confusing than not knowing if tonight in your mashed spuds you have Sperm of Snot added?

For someone like Weatherstone this sort of thing (loss of control) is worse than death.

My experience with people like him is when they realise they have lost control, they revert to a almost a childlike state (it seems like "split personality")

I see a lifetime spent like this as FAR FAR FAR more of a punishment than simply stabbing him to death with a stapler and a credit card.

Take away the one thing that feeds him.

His abilty to control.

I am pretty sure he will end up "topping himself" (eventually), but let's actually try to keep him alive, prolong his agony as much as we can.

That's how you punish him.

I hate the Fucker, but let's all learn from him.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

You guys are all in the shit!
The Legal Beagles (the Beagle Boys' cousins) are investigating whether "social networking sites" (like KB) were in contempt of court for people posting shit like "That Cunt Weatherstone dun it awright".

Don't see any issues with my starting post and title, I merely mentioned that Weatherston is starting an appeal and called him a cunt which btw, isn't an offence as far as I am aware.
No specifics relating to his possible appeal were discussed by this writer.
It's a touch different while a trial is underway V'man, that can then possibly be regarded as contempt of court.

Yours Truly,

Denny Crane

[MisterD]

the little Clayton Cosgrove hiding inside (some) Kiwi's starts "bubbling to the surface"

Freudian slip of the day!

[SS90]

Freudian slip of the day!

DOH!!!!! As for that guy!

[Mully]

Now, I am unsure if there has been any discussion on the point that him asserting this defence argument could well be used for a new strategy of "mentally incompetent".

It is clear for anyone reading just small amounts of his testimony that he shows very clear signs of Narscisic behaviour (of course this requires diagnosis from a group of professionals rather than the general public, but I am sure the consensus of the general public is spot on.

Nice post, SS90. Well thought out.

Narcisism (fucked if I know how to spell it), in itself is not a cause for a mental incompetency plea. Just because he loves himself too much, he still knows right from wrong.

His lawyer, I'm sure, would have examined the possibility of a "Diminished responsibility" or "tempoary insanity" plea, but must have ruled it out.

I doubt Weatherston would have gone for that anyway - his ego wouldn't let him claim he went bananas or was in any way mentally deficient (apparently he was deficient in the trouser department, though).

I object to giving this idiot more court time. Not so much for the money (it's not like they'll give it to me, anyway) but more making Sophie's parents go through the heartache of another trial (particularly her mother, who heard her screaming)

Also, he took a (fucking big) knife with him. That, despite that not being the murder weapon, screams "premeditated"

Plus, as you said, he stabbed her over 200 times. That leans away from temporary insanity (or even provocation; if he'd smacked her once, and she'd fallen and smacked her head and died, "provocation" may have worked)

The grounds of his appeal (the Mob Mentality got him convicted) are flimsy at best, and to my mind show that there really is very little legally wrong with his conviction.

[Skyryder]

Basically the defence that Weatherstone used (provocation) was that he blamed the victim for his own actions. The sad thing is that some have got off murder charges with this defence. There was a case not so long ago where a not guilty verdict was announced because the defendant claimed that the deceased (male) was hitting on him. Provocation can be considered in a murder trial if circumstances warrent this but as a defence the sooner it is removed the better.


Skyryder

[MSTRS:Me]

Basically the defence that Weatherstone used (provocation) was that he blamed the victim for his own actions. The sad thing is that some have got off murder charges with this defence. There was a case not so long ago where a not guilty verdict was announced because the defendant claimed that the deceased (male) was hitting on him. Provocation can be considered in a murder trial if circumstances warrent this but as a defence the sooner it is removed the better.


Skyryder

I know there's talk of that. But what other defence is there in the case of someone who 'turns' on their abuser? Usually a 'battered woman', but applies in any case where a victim of bullying retaliates. In my opinion, this would never be murder, but manslaughter is appropriate as a charge.
Forkenspoon would not qualify for these circumstances, anyway.

[vifferman]

Don't see any issues with my starting post and title

Dear Denny,
Issues? At least two (2).
Firstly, it's a topical issue, because conveniently for me, there was The Harold article which I happened to skim through a few units of time before seeing your thread.
Thirdly, it's naughty using a bad word for frontbum in the heading, because I could get into even more trouble when spending all my time browsing KB instead of doing my work. Some NoseyBastid might see it, and have an apoplectic fit (whatever one of those animules is).
And lastly (although I wouldn't count on it, in MyWorld), it saved me having to find and refer to the (probably) several posts where the KiwiBiker jury tried and convicted Clackton Weathercockerel (notice the clever pseudonumnuts I used there) in absentia and sentenced him to death by many and various and inventive means, both before and dafter the actual 'real' sham trial conducted by The NooZilund legal system (sic).

[Murray]

He's bloody provoking me into wanting to do something nasty to him!! Will I get off if I do????

[Reckless]

This had been nagging at me for ages, finally clicked when I read that article.
Is it just me or does he look a shit load like that labour party guy.

Guess!!!