Mememe
A lot of info there, thanks guys.
Aircraft enigneers, what was your path?
Steve, last couple nights been a bit of fiddling drawing up mountsto fit the GN motor in the barstool, next is forming a chain tensioner for when it's in there.
Atm I'm thinking get into the uni course and take it from there.
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Hardcore Biker
Whatever field you get into, make sure there is an ongoign career pathway that is recessionproof, and can't be outsourced to China, and preferably one where the customers need your services by law, rather than being a toy. It is one reason I went back to Uni and changed careers in my mid 30s to fire protection engineering. I started out in manufacturing, running a plastics factory. A real good long term career path in NZ for sure...
Fire is good, as any alteration will need your services, and contractors have ongoing maintennece work which can't be done by a sweatshop in Dehli.
If you want to talk about the ins and outs of Building Services, give me a call.
Geoff
BE(mech), MBA, MEFE, CPeng, IntPE, MSFPE, MIPENZ and some other stuff.
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Mememe
What do they offer?Originally Posted by sAsLEX
I don't mean that in a negative way, very interested to find out more.
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I am a Weapons Engineer, I have just graduated from Auckland with my BE in Computer Systems Engineering, which I had finished in 06 but have been out of the country since basically, training and travelling with work. My degree was free. I had support and resources available within the NZDF to assist in my degree. I have job security.
http://navyjobs.mil.nz/navy-jobs/off...g-Officer.aspx
Have a look around there, some more accurate info than what I could give as I joined a while back!
now where's some dirt!
Yeah like everyone else said, go to uni and do engineering. I didn't end up with an engineering degree (physics) but have ended up in a job that is more engineering than not. In my first year of uni I had itchy feet and really wanted to get out after not really liking things after 6 months. After my parents made me HTFU I applied myself and got some good results. 4 years later I am very happy with the decision because I now have an awesome job and get paid good money.
There are less and less professional engineer/science guys around and if you can get good experience now (before you are 30) you will have plenty of options in 10-15 years time when all the baby boomers are retiring. There is a big skills shortage in those type of industries and it will only lead to good things imo!
sem fiddy pilot
Yeah.... Boilermakers ftw!Gotta agree - that's the way I did it
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Getting a boiler ticket would be worth some decent money and provide some decent job security. Lots of ex-navy use their tickets ashore in power/steam generation and not many people are coming through with ticket any more.Yeah.... Boilermakers ftw!
Fonterra and the like are big users of steam ....
sem fiddy pilot
Slightly different... that's a stationary engine drivers ticket you're thinking about, a VERY good qualification.
Boilermakers BUILD the boilers.
The clip is a bit of an "in joke" with Blackbird, pertaining to my ex-career
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I know it was a bit of a tangent, I deal with boilermakers everyday at the moment, they are welding an awful lot of steel on the back of my ship!
Highway Biker
MY 2c.... Coming from an ex welders point of view.... I think students need hands on experience too..... Just to get the first hand info into understanding the processes involved in making something and different materials etc.... Its all well an good desiging something then handing it over to some poor bugger who actually has to try and make the thing..... a practical knowlege of how things work would surely help you to design things better?
Pretengineer
It really depends on what you want to be. Head down the uni route and you will more than likely become a 'pen pusher' engineer. Sitting in an office drawing and designing stuff. Great and there is good money (even if you are shit at it, or maybe thats just my work) but it does mean you wont get as much hands on experience.
The other option is to a do a mechanical based apprenticeship. This way you will end up with the hands on experience of machining and designing in real world situations, not from the leisure of an office where reality doesn't extend past a keyboard.
I am doing the latter and obviously I am biased, but the 'pen pusher' engineers are the type of people with infinite knowledge about design and materials etc, but have no grasp on how things work in the real world.
I would say no matter which way you want go, do the hands on thing first, you can always upskill and learn the 'pen pusher' way, but hands on ability comes from nothing more than experience, which you can't do a 3 year course and be called 'competent' no matter what anyone trys to tell you.
Ask some engineering firms if they will let you do some work experience.
Hardcore Biker
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Mememe
Whats that?
Forum whore
There is a grain of truth in what you say but it is still a very very broad generalisation.
I am a degree qualified engineer and there was a time when I'll bet I could have given you a really good run for your money with a lathe, milling machine or welder.
Don't forget either, that every major project you see out there, from a bridge to an oil refinery, has a professional engineer at the helm. Most of these projects seem to work OK afterwards and so some of those engineers must have some grip on reality and how the world works.
The most rewarding jobs I have ever done, started with an open piece of land and finished with a working factory. I had to understand it all, from laying the drains to programming the PLC's. You just don't get that variety in the workshop. (Note that I said "understand", not "do".)
The sense of achievement depends entirely on the individual however. It's not necessarily related to the job and I support your suggestion about work experience BTW.
There is no substitute for experience I agree, but when it goes hand in hand with knowledge, there are no limits.
Professional engineers have made a bigger contribution to improvements in our living standards than any other group and that's a measureable fact, not just an opinion. Their influence reaches into many, many other professions. I recall an opthalmologist who had just completed a corneal transplant on a friend of mine telling us it all came down to the engineer who designed his tools, that made it possible.
The point of this rave is that I think that you do the OP a disservice in trying to dissuade him from the professional path. My own experience was that I didn't realise how many doors it opens until after I had the qualification (which takes 4 years not 3 incidentally).
I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I always was.
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