Goodridge Kevlar lines in NZ?

[gavinnz]

Anyone know a supplier of Goodridge Kevlar brake lines with aluminum fittings here in New Zealand?
Gavin

[vifferman]

Hey! I've got a really, REALLY great idea!
Go to Google, choose "sites in NZ" and type in "goodridge brake lines"
You might get summat like this.
It might even be easier than posting on here and waiting for replies.

[gavinnz]

Hey! I've got a really, REALLY great idea!
Go to Google, choose "sites in NZ" and type in "goodridge brake lines"
You might get summat like this.
It might even be easier than posting on here and waiting for replies.

Do I detect some attitude their to a fair question?

I have in fact done extensive goggling on the subject.
And found nothing of use....

The site you sent is a car only site that does not mention Kevlar brake lines.... I want a supplier of MOTORCYCLE KEVLAR brake lines in NZ.

Anyone know of a place that will do that??
Regards
Gavin

[imdying]

Ask Alert Motorsport.

[gavinnz]

Ask Alert Motorsport.

Thanks for that tip.
They only do HEL lines that do not use kevlar lines or alumiunm fittings.
I might end up having to find a Goodridge dealer in the UK... which I have tried already and sent a couple of e-mails about buying the kit I need but have had no reply from them.
Regards
Gavin

[vifferman]

I have in fact done extensive goggling on the subject.
And found nothing of use....

The site you sent is a car only site that does not mention Kevlar brake lines.... I want a supplier of MOTORCYCLE KEVLAR brake lines in NZ.

My apologies.
Frustrating, innit?

[gavinnz]

My apologies.
Frustrating, innit?

All good mate.
Maybe we should start beinging them in and sellng them!
lol
Regards
Gavin

[imdying]

Thanks for that tip.
They only do HEL lines that do not use kevlar lines or alumiunm fittings.
I might end up having to find a Goodridge dealer in the UK... which I have tried already and sent a couple of e-mails about buying the kit I need but have had no reply from them.
Regards
Gavin

There's nothing special about Goodridge, except a nice range of fittings.

If you believe HEL, you don't want kevlar lines or aluminum fittings are the last thing you want

[F5 Dave]

Ally fittings aren't legal in NZ for roaduse I believe. I can see why I have some broken ones downstairs of an Auss bike. Hel make good lines & Alert seem very reasonable when I've got stuff made up.

[imdying]

What makes you believe that?

[gavinnz]

There's nothing special about Goodridge, except a nice range of fittings.

If you believe HEL, you don't want kevlar lines or aluminum fittings are the last thing you want

I had read the Hel site also and I smell a rat when it comes to the comments about aliminum fittings in brake lines and dissimlar metals... I figure the calipers and master cylinders are aluminum so whats the issue? You could use a ali crush washer and you have ALL the same metals... hence no battery corosion effect?
I could see more of an issue if low quality aluminum was used...
I could also see how they would not take abuse like a steel fitting so you would have to be more careful around them.

As for the Kevlar line degrading in UV light... how many of us would fit expensive super light brake lines to a bike that was going to spend any real time in the sun?? More likley used, then under a cover in a dark shed.

So in closing I dispute Hels findings as marketing.
Goodridge is a good company and I am sure they have done their homework on these and they stand behind them..... now I wish they would just answer the questions I asked them about buying lines!!

Regards
Gavin

[imdying]

You're not the first person to come to that conclusion either.

[F5 Dave]

What makes you believe that?

I said I believe, I didn't say that I wasn't delusional.

I might have to rescind that comment. I've seen ally fitting cables not pass WOFs, but that could equally be as they didn't have the correct DOT or equiv label. I had thought that someone at VINZ had said that ally fittings weren't ok, but that may be a case of the above.

Having said that I bet that on a bike with the forks whipping up & down the steel braided lines are likely putting some stress on those fittings. Steel is a wonder material in that it can cope where ally fatigues far earlier. As I said after seeing the cracks in the ally fittings I have I wouldn't use them & I'm a weight obsessive on some of my bikes.

[imdying]

I said I believe, I didn't say that I wasn't delusional.

Yeah, I know, that's why I asked why you believe it.

I might have to rescind that comment. I've seen ally fitting cables not pass WOFs, but that could equally be as they didn't have the correct DOT or equiv label.

Probably screw together fittings, they're not legal at all.

Having said that I bet that on a bike with the forks whipping up & down the steel braided lines are likely putting some stress on those fittings. Steel is a wonder material in that it can cope where ally fatigues far earlier.

Basically, they're aircraft tech, and not really suitable for road vehicles at all. When the inner liner on a rubber hose gets punctured for some reason, the outer rubber sleeve will hole the pressure, even at over 3000psi it just swells up. When the inner liner on a braided lines gets punctured, total loss of braking system occurs. I can make braided lines for free, and I don't run any on any of my vehicles. Basically on an aircraft they do xxx hours, and get replaced, but never on road vehicles.

[vifferman]

Having had braided lines on my last bike (actually the reason I made my first post on KB!), I dunno if I'd bother again. They look kewl, and may be lighter, but the feel is rather wooden (depending on brand - I found the HEL ones worse than the BSR Aerotek ones they replaced).