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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Dan View Post
    Name and shame the shoddy places that give out dodgy WOF - we all have to use the roads !

    If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.
    VTNZ are more useless than the locally owned garage. Having consistancy is a foreign principle to them.See.
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    Unhappy

    One of the new things the police will have "in the war against boy racers" is that they can now stop a vehicle and demand a re-check of WOF if they do not like what they see/hear. It was one thing I liked with NZ; that the police here did not have that power. If you had a WOF then it was legal (apart fror something obvious like no thread on tyres or something broken).

    Thanks to teenagers in souped up crappy jap cars that is now gone. And it will be used against bikers to. So now there is a chance that you will have to do the muffler swap more than once every six months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Dan View Post
    Name and shame the shoddy places that give out dodgy WOF - we all have to use the roads !

    If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.
    Theres a difference between 'dodgy' and 'lenient'

    The type of warrant place that I like is one that wont fail you for minor things, but will still point them out and tell you the importance of getting them fixed.

    Just like Roger at action wreckers
    'you need a chain guard......... because ultimately you will die'
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    Wasn't me officer, honest, it was that morcs guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    Yeah I do recall, but dismissed it as being you when I saw both wheels on the ground.
    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    lulz, ever ridden a TL1000R? More to the point, ever ridden with teh Morcs? Didn't fink so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcs View Post
    Theres a difference between 'dodgy' and 'lenient'
    Quite right, and there's a big difference between those who have the paperwork to check your bike and a qualified motorcycle enthusiast.

    I prefer the latter.

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    Big V twins not too loud for WOF

    Quote Originally Posted by Morcs View Post
    Apparently the can on my NC35 is too loud.

    Its loud, but not outrageously loud. Its quiet compared to my Fazer, and a lot quieter than big twins like Tls and VTRs...

    I tried getting a warrant at cycletreads as they know bikes, and will know whats important and whats beurocratic shit, but wasnt happy with the exhaust test.

    Whats the manner in how its done? Im pretty sure it was done in the workshop. In a building. WTF. sound reverberates and is amplified?

    Anyone know somewhere I can get a warrant?

    If I pay for a warrant, I expect a warrant.
    I have a SV with no baffles in the Yoshis's, yeah loud you think , but it passes the WOF at the testing station no problems, where as some of the smaller bikes dont.
    My reasoning is the sound is loud and low like thunder, not a raspy high pitched sound that inline fours etc make, which push the meter over the limit.
    The low resonance of the big cylinders and big pipes seems to dull the decibel meter to a lower reading.

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    McLeod Motors in Helensville.Lou Keefe is a biker.
    Does the warrants for BikeSport too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conquiztador View Post
    (apart fror something obvious like no thread on tyres or something broken).
    .
    I have thread on my tyres.You can see it through holes in the rubber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    The limit for a bike is 100db,but unfortunately they have to fail you at 97db to allow for discrepancies.So then you have to supply proof that it is under 100db.
    That's quite hilarious. With environmental noise it has to be shown by the local authority that the noisemaker is at least 3dBA over any limit, to allow for discrepancies.

    No innocent until proven guilty with exhaust noise eh ? The onus is on the noisemaker to prove innocence.

    I'd be interested to see what a lawyer's opinion was on this, cause it definitely isn't consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    I'd be interested to see what a lawyer's opinion was on this, cause it definitely isn't consistent.
    Try it - but I doubt very much if you could make a case of it.The reason it is failed at a lower reading on the WoF ''Quick test'' is because such a test is inconsistent and not a controlled environment. If it was passed and the exhaust proved noisier than the ''Quick Test'',then the AVI would be guilty of issuing a WoF to a noisy vehicle.Someone has to take responsibility - in this case the customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    Someone has to take responsibility - in this case the customer.
    Steady, that's a bit old school mate


    Modern practice it to BLAME everyone else.


    At the end of the day if you want it LOUD and near that 100db, you pay your $150 or so to have it tested officially and get the relevant stickers for the specific pipes on the specific bike. This way you are fully documented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
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    You just rocked my world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Dan
    If they dont pick up a simple noisy pipe then what else are they missing? I always take bikes/cars to VTNZ.
    VTNZ is a joke. "Please ride up to the light machine"
    "Lights on High please"
    "Handbrake please"
    "Footbrake please"
    "Indicator left then right please"

    "Thankyou we will take it from here"

    They looked at the tyres, never checked the brakes or steering, horn etc. They then turned the key on to get the mileage and that was it!!
    Speed triple with Arrow race system last week.

    Easy warrant but for those that do not maintain their bikes you want to be safe so the best place is a reputable motorcycle dealer

    That is if you have nothing to hide

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    If you are near Cycletreads, then try going just down the road to Action Bike Wreckors:

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Action_Bike_Wreckers

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    If you are near Cycletreads, then try going just down the road to Action Bike Wreckors:

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Action_Bike_Wreckers
    Depends on what day of the week you go down.
    One day roger will fail you, the next he might pass you.
    Never go at lunch otherwise he'll tell you to fuck off.

    But hes a good coont and tells it how it is:
    'you need a chain guard. I cant fail you for it though'
    'it never had one?'
    'yes it did. You should get one, otherwise you will die.'

    lol
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNanna View Post
    Wasn't me officer, honest, it was that morcs guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    Yeah I do recall, but dismissed it as being you when I saw both wheels on the ground.
    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    lulz, ever ridden a TL1000R? More to the point, ever ridden with teh Morcs? Didn't fink so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcs View Post
    Theres a difference between 'dodgy' and 'lenient'

    The type of warrant place that I like is one that wont fail you for minor things, but will still point them out and tell you the importance of getting them fixed.

    Just like Roger at action wreckers
    'you need a chain guard......... because ultimately you will die'

    I tend to agree with you about the "lenient" side of things ,
    BUT
    there is no such thing as interpreting either way of middle in a WOF inspection , there is simply a case of , meets the criteria and fails the criteria.
    An AVI can not decide if he will be lenient and still stay on the correct side of the rules.
    If he/ she does and an issue is later found he/she will be charged with the breach.
    We all do it but if it comes back on us we are liable and it can be quite a nasty drop.

    If you go to a certain inspector when you have a noisy pipe or any other issue you are aware of and then get failed , why do some people get miffed about it , if its in the Virm its how it has to be , we dont have to agree with it but its the rule.

    Paul.

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    Personally I understand why Cycletreads have to be careful. But why offer WOF's in the first place when they know 10 other places out there will issue them when they won't. Personally when I go in for a WOF I want a wof not some sill reason like 'ur pipes too loud ffs'. I service my bike myself for the most part and know when and what is wrong with it so pls just give me my wof and here's 30 bucks. Think they've shot themselves in the foot a little here. Just my 2 shillings.

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