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    Cycletread pedants!

    Failing a WOF for no rear pillion pegs when my bike is clearly set up for one rider is a bit pedantic in my view.

    I have never had this issue with VTNZ.

    It was stated that if I had a single piece rear cowl this would be fine as it couldn't be converted to carry a pillion........ well I could just put my other fairing back on couldn't I? Just like I could put my rear seat back on if I so felt?

    So now off to spend an hour putting the pegs back on, and then an hour taking them off again.

    Thanks pedants, I know where I will be not taking my custom in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Failing a WOF for no rear pillion pegs when my bike is clearly set up for one rider is a bit pedantic in my view.

    I have never had this issue with VTNZ.

    It was stated that if I had a single piece rear cowl this would be fine as it couldn't be converted to carry a pillion........ well I could just put my other fairing back on couldn't I? Just like I could put my rear seat back on if I so felt?

    So now off to spend an hour putting the pegs back on, and then an hour taking them off again.

    Thanks pedants, I know where I will be not taking my custom in future.
    Did you query this with Cycletreads...may sound silly to you but maybe they are correct....they are Bikers themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    Did you query this with Cycletreads...may sound silly to you but maybe they are correct....they are Bikers themselves
    Yeah and I said I would bring the pegs in to be inspected....... but they have to be securely fastened to the bike..... which they will be for an hour.

    There is surely some room for looking at the issue at hand and applying some common sense, I mean they will be removed straight afterwards and I told them as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Failing a WOF for no rear pillion pegs when my bike is clearly set up for one rider is a bit pedantic in my view.

    I have never had this issue with VTNZ.

    It was stated that if I had a single piece rear cowl this would be fine as it couldn't be converted to carry a pillion........ well I could just put my other fairing back on couldn't I? Just like I could put my rear seat back on if I so felt?

    So now off to spend an hour putting the pegs back on, and then an hour taking them off again.

    Thanks pedants, I know where I will be not taking my custom in future.
    you have every right to moan like a bitch. How dare they obey the law and do their job properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Yeah and I said I would bring the pegs in to be inspected....... but they have to be securely fastened to the bike..... which they will be for an hour.

    There is surely some room for looking at the issue at hand and applying some common sense, I mean they will be removed straight afterwards and I told them as much.
    They have to protect themselves against potentially hefty fines and remember that the WOF is on as at the time of the test...not an hour later...

    Commonsense does not apply to regulations...Cycletreads just did things the right way.

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    Also remember if they give you a WOF, and your bike fails to meet the actual WOF conditions, and then someone subsequently dies as a result, the person who gave the WOF can be convicted of negligent manslaughter.

    The fine and other penalties are bad enough, but I wouldn't risk jail time if I was the person doing the examination.

    Perhaps you could ask what you could do to convince them the bike could not be used to pillion a passenger. Perhaps you could do some other kind of modification to prevent a pillion from being carried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    you have every right to moan like a bitch. How dare they obey the law and do their job properly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    They have to protect themselves against potentially hefty fines and remember that the WOF is on as at the time of the test...not an hour later...

    Commonsense does not apply to regulations...Cycletreads just did things the right way.
    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Also remember if they give you a WOF, and your bike fails to meet the actual WOF conditions, and then someone subsequently dies as a result, the person who gave the WOF can be convicted of negligent manslaughter.

    The fine and other penalties are bad enough, but I wouldn't risk jail time if I was the person doing the examination.

    Perhaps you could ask what you could do to convince them the bike could not be used to pillion a passenger. Perhaps you could do some other kind of modification to prevent a pillion from being carried.
    Pedants aren't restricted just to Cycletreads
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miscreant View Post
    you have every right to moan like a bitch. How dare they obey the law and do their job properly.
    1. A motorcycle must have:
    a) foot rests for the rider, and
    b) foot rests for the pillion passenger if provision is made for pillion riding.


    From the http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/vi...es-02-v3a4.pdf


    There is no provision for pillion riding on my bike, there is no sea, or pegs....

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    If VTNZ have no problem, then whos right?

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    In fact it could be argued I am adding a dangerous projection to the vehicle, part of the reason I removed them, as they are now a danger of catching my legs if I crash.

    So I could fail for adding them......

    Reasons for rejection
    Condition and performance (Note 1)
    1. The risk of a component (Note 5) hooking a vehicle, or hooking or grazing a person, has not been minimised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD345 View Post
    Pedants aren't restricted just to Cycletreads
    KB is the biggest I reckon

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    In fact it could be argued I am adding a dangerous projection to the vehicle, part of the reason I removed them, as they are now a danger of catching my legs if I crash.

    So I could fail for adding them......

    Reasons for rejection
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    1. The risk of a component (Note 5) hooking a vehicle, or hooking or grazing a person, has not been minimised.
    So that leaves the handlebars, fairing..rider pegs then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    So that leaves the handlebars, fairing..rider pegs then
    Minimised, you need those for control. No need for pillion pegs if you don't have a rear seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Minimised, you need those for control. No need for pillion pegs if you don't have a rear seat.
    To you maybe......

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    you should of gone to the wreckers next door, cycletreads are good for cheap tyres, and thats about it. (pay penuts get monkeys)

    Last rear tyre they put on my bike I found a HUGE dollop of axl grease on my rear brake disc. It was ok cos i never use it tho.
    Then I could get a Kb Tshirt, move to Timaru and become a full time crossdressing faggot

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