MNZ storm brewing

**Robert Taylor** · 27th October 2009, 19:01

Originally Posted by GSVR

One opinion might be that the sport which is essentially still "amature" here in NZ (not all riders are fulltime and paid) is advised ,organised and administered by professionals who primarilly look at the sport as a profit making opportunity (or that if it isn't it should be).

This is not directed at MNZ either and its just the way the western world has been moving. User pays. Profits before people etc. If you buy into it and do well all good.

The reason for the VICs success is its more about riders getting out and having a go! And the club seems to want to cater for as many diffent levels a possible and give everyone a fair go. Its good to see serious racers investing heavilly in the sport and doing really well but its also great to see people out there on what they brung having a blast enjoying the sport just a much and in alot of cases more.

I'll let you and Bob get back to discussing manlove now Scrivy!

Indeed, that series caters for a diverse range of levels from bargain basement to top shelf equipment and riders. If everyone at all levels are geeting something out of it then thats great.
Profit ( fair and reasonable ) is neccessary in order to be able to help people as there is inevitably a cost in doing everything. I have no problem with fair and reasonable profit and people giving something back.
What I do strongly object to in all forms is stifling legislation.

**Robert Taylor** · 27th October 2009, 19:07

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

The letter from the patron & life members convienently ignores a couple of other conflicts of interest that are going on too.
One senior steward ( & probably life member) uses his MNZ badge to gain access to take photographs for a magazine, to the point where he will abuse the organisers own hired photographer, order him out of the way & wave his high ranking MNZ authority badge about to get what he wants. I witnessed it myself at the BADD 3 hour & was suitably disgusted.
F.F.S Does it really matter who imports Ohlins suspension & who is who's son in law?

Thanks Sidecar Bob for your last sentence. If that letter was indicative of how uninformed and inaccurate the author is then god help us. Lets draw reference to the fact that it only mentioned one person being the importer of Ohlins suspension, when in fact its an equal partnership and also incudes our wives. If there was a true conflict of interest then the son in law would be supplying the said bikes with his suspension components.

**wharfy** · 29th October 2009, 08:08

It would be pretty nieve to NOT expect some conflict of interest in the administration of motorcycle sport (at whatever level). If you had no "interest" in motorcycle sport why would you get involved ?

The only requirement should be that the conflict is declared and where that conflict may influence decisions the person who would benifit is not involved in the decision making.

As for the employment relations, MNZ board needs to make sure that they follow the letter AND the spirit of the employment relations act.
I for one would be VERY pissed off if MNZ funds where wasted on fighting personal greivence actions as they usually come about because employers try to get rid of someone they don't "like".
If Employees are not performing there are very clear rules about how to manage that.

Everyone is entitled to be treated fairly and with respect at work.

**Shaun** · 29th October 2009, 08:20

Originally Posted by wharfy

It would be pretty nieve to NOT expect some conflict of interest in the administration of motorcycle sport (at whatever level). If you had no "interest" in motorcycle sport why would you get involved ?

The only requirement should be that the conflict is declared and where that conflict may influence decisions the person who would benifit is not involved in the decision making.

As for the employment relations, MNZ board needs to make sure that they follow the letter AND the spirit of the employment relations act.
I for one would be VERY pissed off if MNZ funds where wasted on fighting personal greivence actions as they usually come about because employers try to get rid of someone they don't "like".
If Employees are not performing there are very clear rules about how to manage that.

Everyone is entitled to be treated fairly and with respect at work.

Good to see you typing mate

**scrivy** · 29th October 2009, 11:35

Originally Posted by wharfy

Everyone is entitled to be treated fairly and with respect at work.

...but not on the track eh.......???

**Str8 Jacket** · 29th October 2009, 11:58

Originally Posted by wharfy

The only requirement should be that the conflict is declared and where that conflict may influence decisions the person who would benifit is not involved in the decision making.

Exactly!! Procurement 101... we (Govt Dept) deal with all CoI's exactly this way too. CoI is usually mostly perception anyway, unfortunately 'perception is reality' for alot of people...

**Kickaha** · 30th October 2009, 21:37

So have any clubs had a meeting of their members and voted whether to support the Patron or not?

**scracha** · 30th October 2009, 22:20

Huntly we have a problem - again. So I'll write this - again :-

Some things are inherently badly designed and are best scrapped. Viva la revolution

**sidecar bob** · 31st October 2009, 08:37

Originally Posted by Kickaha

So have any clubs had a meeting of their members and voted whether to support the Patron or not?

Na, im gonna do the whole Brian Tamaki thing, seems he has a plan & great leadership.

**Kickaha** · 31st October 2009, 08:42

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Na, im gonna do the whole Brian Tamaki thing, seems he has a plan & great leadership.

Send me your money

**sidecar bob** · 31st October 2009, 08:45

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Send me your money

Send me your ring.

**Tony.OK** · 31st October 2009, 08:49

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Send me your ring.

How about a credit card styled membership card?

Pay to join, follow the rules, agree with everything, do as your told......................................ahh nearly the same