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    Is ACC breaching a human rights?

    I emailed the Human Rights Commission and detailed things as I saw it and requested they investigate and see if ACC are in breach by picking on a 'minority people group' (bikers) who in most cases are actually the victims.

    They replied
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    Dear Kevin,
    Thank you for your email, which was received by the Human Rights Commission’s Infoline Team.
    Your matter will be considered, and someone will contact you again within 15 working days to let you know how we might assist you, or if there is any other involvement the Commission might offer.
    If you have any further queries please contact our freecall Infoline on 0800 496 877 (TTY: 0800 150 111). We use Language Line services to provide free interpreting in 40 different languages.

    Yours sincerely,
    Rhiannon Thomson Infoline Team Leader
    (unquote)


    I wonder what would happen if the Human Rights Commission got thousands of complaints about ACC...... would they sit up ... take notice and do a thorough investigation?


    One way to find out I guess
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    Good on you.

    Can't see it running far because the levy is on motorcycles, not people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Good on you.

    Can't see it running far because the levy is on motorcycles, not people.
    one more organization that could be encouraged to ask ACC and National questions tho ..... and I don't see it as my 750 being picked on .... I see ME being picked on.
    and the issues arent just confined to our bike levies remember ... they propose to increase our personal tax, the employers levies, cars, trucks and where do they plan to stop?
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    There in lies the problem. Everyone is trying to point the finger, National at Labour, Motorcyclists at cars etc etc. In the end it shouldn't be about stats or he said, she said. It should be about it being unfair that there is ACC levys on "vehicle" registration at all. A lot of motorcyclists also own cars, a lot of people are multiple road going vehicle owners and are thus paying multiple levys.
    ACC levys (raised) on fuel I suggest. Fuel prices will go up accordingly but the net will cover from the person having an accident with their lawnmower/ chainsaw, to your weekend warriors on their dirtbikes or rally cars. All things powered by petrol that you can just as easily have as bad an accident with then if you're on the road driving/ riding.
    A person can drive an unregistered vehicle for ages by rolling the dice and not getting caught and there are plenty out there, so effectively not paying levys. But they have to put petrol in it at some point.
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    I don't think there will be any good outcome doing the Human Rights Act thing is the Act only refers to discrimination on the grounds of:

    -gender (including pregnancy and childbirth)
    -marital status
    -religious belief
    -ethical belief
    -colour
    -race
    -ethnic/national origin
    -disability
    -age (16 and over)1
    -political opinion
    -employment status
    -family status
    -sexual orientation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    I don't think there will be any good outcome doing the Human Rights Act thing is the Act only refers to discrimination on the grounds of:

    - Religion
    Hello,

    I'm a Biktian - I believe a benevolent Sky-Biker created the universe specifically for those who take up the noble cause of motorcycling and use it's powers for good.

    ACC's proposed levies will prevent me from practising my religion/

    (is any of that less plausible than Scientology?)
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    I thought perhaps 'Race' could be a grounds because a lot of us like to race while we ride...

    Also 'sexual preference' might get Honda riders exempt (I can say that now because I've sold my Honda)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Good on you.

    Can't see it running far because the levy is on motorcycles, not people.
    but the bike doesn't pay the levy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    -political opinion
    -employment status
    You would have to work it some how to these

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Hello,

    I'm a Biktian - I believe a benevolent Sky-Biker created the universe specifically for those who take up the noble cause of motorcycling and use it's powers for good.

    ACC's proposed levies will prevent me from practising my religion/

    (is any of that less plausible than Scientology?)
    Me too.
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    Good work Kevie, good luck. Def worth the shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    You would have to work it some how to these

    -political opinion
    -employment status
    So because i can only afford a motorcycle to get me to and from work (x cents per mile (inc insurance etc...) v's public transport costs), if the levy hike goes through, i will not be able to afford to travel to work. Therefore the government are forcing me out of my job, by over pricing the only mode of transport i can afford to get to work?

    kinda like that perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    ACC's proposed levies will prevent me from practising my religion/

    (is any of that less plausible than Scientology?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post

    kinda like that perhaps?
    by taxing motorcycles off the road (when there is no need and no crisis) they are taking away my freedom of choice,

    freedom of choice is everything,

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    by taxing motorcycles off the road (when there is no need and no crisis) they are taking away my freedom of choice,

    freedom of choice is everything,
    It may be my legal right and my choice to ride a motorcycle, but if i can't afford it because of levy hikes, it's not affecting my freedom to choose, but moreover my financial situation stopping me from having what i want. I understand what you're saying, i just don't think the human rights commission will buy that as an excuse.
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