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    Who's got a long one. Memory that is

    My memory says that once there wasn't a separate ACC category for bikes. We were just in with cars and vans and shit.

    But I can't remember why I think that or when it changed if it did.

    Does anyone know? Please?
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    My memory is long gone.When ACC came in I was doing things to my brain cells that sent many to premature retirement.Concensus here is that we weren't told - it wasn't broken down into categories,just a rego fee.
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    About 12 years ago, we got our own seperate levy, which at the time, was somwhere around 20 dollars cheaper than the car levy.
    Bikers at the time actually lobbied to get it raised back up to the car levy, believing that once we were on our own, it could be raised as easily as it was lowered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    About 12 years ago, we got our own seperate levy, which at the time, was somwhere around 20 dollars cheaper than the car levy.
    Bikers at the time actually lobbied to get it raised back up to the car levy, believing that once we were on our own, it could be raised as easily as it was lowered.
    No it was earlier than that. Try some time aound 78-80. I remember participating in the protest ride through Wellington and I sold that bike and left for the UK for 13 years in 1980.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork View Post
    No it was earlier than that. Try some time aound 78-80. I remember participating in the protest ride through Wellington and I sold that bike and left for the UK for 13 years in 1980.
    Well then it happened again sometime while you were away, but thinking about it, it was a lot longer ago than i originally said, may be nearer to 20 years.

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    I've been looking back at oldish relicence slips...I'm confused.
    Some are orange and some are green, and the rates on each are different.
    The green form is "Renewal of Motor Vehicle Licence".
    The orange form is "Application for Motor Vehicle Licence".
    Yet in the below bikes the rego was continuous.
    1. GSXR1100 due 07/2005 ACC Levy $189.02. Due 07/2006 $166.50. Both orange.
    2. GSXR750 due 05/2008 $166.50. Due 05/2009 $204.66. Both green
    3. EL250 due 03/2006 $189.02 Orange. Due 09/2006 $166.50 Green.
    4. VT250 due 03/2006 $189.02 Orange. Due 09/2006 $166.50 Green. Due 04/2008 $166.50. Green.
    5. EX500 due 09/2009 $252.69 Green.


    All of them state that the fee covers a 12 month period. So even if I did a 3 month (say) at some point in the history, it still doesn't make sense.
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    well, the $166, $204, $252 are easy enough. The levy goes up each year (about $40). My dockets show the same numbers .

    I don't know about the $189 one. That would imply that between 03/2006 and 07/2006 the levy went DOWN. It's possible, those months are in different licensing years (licensing year is July to June), but an ACC levy going DOWN? Especially on motorcycles? Doesn't seem very probable. I'll try to find one of mine from that period.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Well then it happened again sometime while you were away, but thinking about it, it was a lot longer ago than i originally said, may be nearer to 20 years.
    there was a protest in 1979 (+/- a year) , but I don't think that as when the motorcycle specific class happened. I was at the TownHall for it, but I'm blowed if I can remember the details. I just remember I was agin it.

    Another in 1993 , but that was definately an increase proposal.

    I doubt there would have been any mass protest about setting up a motorcycle class, i don't think they cahnged the levy at the time (or not much anyway).
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    It's the only protest I've been involved in and I'm pretty sure that increasing bike ACC levy changres above cars was exactly what it was about!

    Remember, I was out of the country for 13+ years after that and didn't start riding again until '04
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    All the protests have been about increasing ACC levies.

    What i want is when bikes got their own account
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    All the protests have been about increasing ACC levies.

    What i want is when bikes got their own account
    The day they seperated all the different accounts is the day that ACC as a whole fell apart... the bigger the pool the better the scheme works for all accidents... The smaller the seperate accounts etc the less the scheme actually works... it shouldn't be like that it was never designed to be like that... the idea of it was to cross subsidise so it didn't matter where the money came from as long as ACC as a whole had enough to cover people in general don't care who is paying what...

    my ACC in my PAYE is suppose to cover me for any thing I do as a citizen and that includes driving or riding a motorcycle... technically the levy on the rego should only be a top up

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    Absolutely correct . WHEN WAS IT ?
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    my ACC in my PAYE is suppose to cover me for any thing I do as a citizen and that includes driving or riding a motorcycle... technically the levy on the rego should only be a top up
    And that pretty much nails it too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Absolutely correct . WHEN WAS IT ?
    umm sorry my memory not that good either on dates... hell I can't even remember my BDay let alone hers...

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    It wouldn't have been in 99 when they brought in private competition, would it?
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