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    Quote Originally Posted by mowgli View Post
    But if you donate money it funds "investigation and prosecution of animal abusers". I'm guessing proceeds from T-shirts go to the same? They're careful to say that management won't take any of your money but I wonder who the investigators are and if they get paid?

    Edit: Oh yeah. Support SPCA all the way. I don't donate to causes I don't understand.
    fair enough. i support the spca as well.
    to be honest im not all that bothered if some of my donation 'goes west' as long as some of it helps the cause. anything is better then nothing i figure.
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    Wankers.Hope they end up with holes in themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 325rocket View Post
    fair enough. i support the spca as well.
    to be honest im not all that bothered if some of my donation 'goes west' as long as some of it helps the cause. anything is better then nothing i figure.
    Yup, agree. So long as it goes where you think its going. Phishing is pretty sophisticated these days. Cut and paste a bunch of convincing pages together.

    Google just revealed that the "case studies" were probably ripped from http://www.truecrimeinsider.com/ Copyright 2007. Reproduced by Pawjustice in 2009 with permission, I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'm sorry, but am I missing something here?

    Did the vet give any indication of what caused the "nice round hole"?
    My bet would be a slug gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowgli View Post
    Sad news about little Batman.

    Someone else referred me to pawjustice but it seems a little OTT. The main page is quite disturbing. If this was a growing problem in NZ you'd think they could find some NZ case studies? Their stated mission is a fluffy "listen and talk to pet owners". But if you donate money it funds "investigation and prosecution of animal abusers". I'm guessing proceeds from T-shirts go to the same? They're careful to say that management won't take any of your money but I wonder who the investigators are and if they get paid? Seems a bit too much like tugging on heart strings to secure a donation from emotional types.

    It may be legit but for such a slick website their message is all over the place.

    Edit: Oh yeah. Support SPCA all the way. I don't donate to causes I don't understand.
    It does say 'proudly supported by the SPCA' and they've had a bunch of ads on TV lately. Though your comments do make one stop and think.
    Maybe worthwhile contacting the SPCA and gettng their take on it for anyone dubious about the site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I'm sorry, but am I missing something here?

    Did the vet give any indication of what caused the "nice round hole"?

    He indicated that its what it looked like, but he didn't want to "jump that far ahead."

    Infact I could grab a slug pellet from in mums gun cabinet and it would slot into the hole perfectly.

    Very tidy, straight in, the size of a slug pellet and the cat obviously bled internally.

    Maybe he got hit by a cat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    My bet would be a slug gun.
    Yes, but could also be a septic rat bite.

    Surely if it was a slug gun the vet would have said "Hey, I think we should try to find the pellet".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Yes, but could also be a septic rat bite.

    Surely if it was a slug gun the vet would have said "Hey, I think we should try to find the pellet".
    Remember the poor little bugger was only a kitten, and most modern slug guns would be powerful enough to send the slug right through.
    And from the tone of the original post it sounded to me like he was fine one day and injured the next.
    I could be wrong though for sure, merely conjecture and hypothesising here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Yes, but could also be a septic rat bite.

    Surely if it was a slug gun the vet would have said "Hey, I think we should try to find the pellet".
    Well theres vets and theres vets,somewhat similar to theres doctors and theres doctors,a mate of mine plodding about on a trials bike took on a cliff beyond his ability resulting in his kneecap seemingly appearing on the wrong side of his leg,upon finally getting someone to respond to the Emergency buzzer at the hospital we were confronted with some Indian gezzer that couldnt speak our language,he asked "@%$&" which we couldnt undertstand so through the large sliding door glass we showed him (i think) the guys obviously painful leg,more "^%^%" followed then arm waving and shrugs of the shoulders (which we understood at least)result was someone smashed the sliding door glass pressed the button and we moved on,finally only to be told that an xray had to be taken before any treatment would follow.Madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Remember the poor little bugger was only a kitten,
    No, actually he was two years old (according to the original post).

    Don't get me wrong - I love animals. My wife and I don't have kids and our dog (until recent times, two dogs) and two cats are our children.

    I just know that I wouldn't take a cat home from the vets with a "nice round hole" in it without knowing for sure what caused that hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    No, actually he was two years old (according to the original post).

    Don't get me wrong - I love animals. My wife and I don't have kids and our dog (until recent times, two dogs) and two cats are our children.

    I just know that I wouldn't take a cat home from the vets with a "nice round hole" in it without knowing for sure what caused that hole.
    Oops, you're right....my bad, missed that on the age.

    And, yes I tend to agree regarding not knowing about the cause. Perhaps the vet didn't want to go down that road in case of further upset to owner?

    Anyway, regardless of this case there are definitely way too many cases of animal harm coming to light of late. Puts me off getting more pets (have had both dogs and cats) as I'm not home a lot of the time and it would worry me
    especially as I live on a road that is not only near the local rugby stadium (lots of drunken loons after a game) but is also a favoured speeding road for the local boy racers. So if the sickos didn't get them the traffic probably would.

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    doesnt a pellet from a slug gun cause lead poisening.?
    i know thats why the duck shooters had to change to steel shot..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I just know that I wouldn't take a cat home from the vets with a "nice round hole" in it without knowing for sure what caused that hole.
    Yeah likewise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I just know that I wouldn't take a cat home from the vets with a "nice round hole" in it without knowing for sure what caused that hole.
    The mistake was putting my trust in someones judgement despite having a feeling that it may have been wrong (he's got the bit of paper doesn't he). Obviously if someone had of been home to notice the bloody poo he would have been straight back to the vet but we can't all be in two places at once. It would have made it obvious you'd think. I'd say it would be safe to assume that by that stage it would have been to late though.

    On another note I could always dig around and see what I can find, don't think I could stomach it though. Or perhaps take him back and ask the vet to have a dig around for confirmation.

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    hugs to the whole kittie kat family, girl

    This makes me sick....had 2 little ones poisoned.... both by one of the neighbour's over drenching of insecticide...my girl died in my arms & my boy survived what the vet said should have killed a large dog.

    I would have no trouble belting the living fuck out of anyone of these sadistic bastards that think it's OK to hurt animals.


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