Is Rodney Hide really Rob Muldoon re-incarnated?

[Pixie]

Yea Muldoon was a street fighter. He'd 'ave had Hides hide off Hides back before Hide knew it..............even if pissed on Gin.

Skyryder

In fact He'd jump out of Hiding in a Hide and 'ave had Hides hide off Hides back before Hide could run away and Hide in a Hidy hole

[Skyryder]

Oh come on, you can't separate "political" and "economic".

I'm sticking by my postion that to equate the term "liberal" with the kind of big-state social engineering that characterised the last decade in this country is stupid.[/SIZE].

Yes you can if you look at the historical factors. Liberal was the defining theory that opposed the 'Divine Right' of the monarchy. It had nothing to do with economics. Liberalism opposed subjucation.

The concept has been changed by the 'Freebooters' as their Divine Right to pillage and plunder at will. It is the very reason they espouse less government, regulation etc.

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

AND JUST WHERE DID 9 YEARS OF LABOUR GET US, latterly in cohoots with the Watermelons? Dont get me started!

As for that foul mouthed racist and perks for the perkbuster yes I agree, but individual acts that deserve brutal retribution.

So do bad jokes.

From Hansard Oct 20 09

Hon Phil Goff: Does the Prime Minister think it is fair that motorcycle riders are facing levy increases of up to 300 percent; if not, will he work with Labour to ensure that that massive increase in costs faced by bikers will be substantially reduced?


Hon JOHN KEY: I guess the first thing I would say is that Mr Goff should rest assured that people do not have to pay that big increase if they only borrow a motorbike, and do not actually own it.

The second point I might add is that the Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) is proposing what it is fair enough to say is quite a significant increase for owners of larger motorbikes, with a proposed levy increasing by about $500, to $781. As I said yesterday at my press conference, it is worth remembering that on the advice we have had from ACC, a full cost recovery levy for motorcycle-only accidents is $2,215 and if we take into consideration accidents where a car is involved, the levy should increase to $3,770. Yes, it is a big increase, but other New Zealanders should know they are already substantially cross-subsidising motorbike riders.


Got the first one. Now that was funny. Might have something to do with the Maori Party. But for the life of me I can not see the puch line for the second one. I'd say he needs a new comedy writer. Watcha think??


Skyryder

[MisterD]

The concept has been changed by the 'Freebooters' as their Divine Right to pillage and plunder at will. It is the very reason they espouse less government, regulation etc.

...at least that is the ideological argument put forward by the big state lovers.

[Skyryder]

...at least that is the ideological argument put forward by the big state lovers.

No wrong again. It's the 'historical' arguement put forward by those who know.


Skyyrder

[MisterD]

those who know.

Translation: socialist history lecturers in universities...

[Skyryder]

Translation: socialist history lecturers in universities...

If you actually went to the trouble of just pressing a few button on your keyboard and actually looked at the origins of liberalism you would not make so many silly statements on this issue. John Locke is considered the founder on the liberal theories. I doubt if many would see this man in the context that you describe but considering your KB name I suppose you can not help if I consider your posts a D=fail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke

Skyrder

[Robert Taylor]

So do bad jokes.

From Hansard Oct 20 09

Hon Phil Goff: Does the Prime Minister think it is fair that motorcycle riders are facing levy increases of up to 300 percent; if not, will he work with Labour to ensure that that massive increase in costs faced by bikers will be substantially reduced?


Hon JOHN KEY: I guess the first thing I would say is that Mr Goff should rest assured that people do not have to pay that big increase if they only borrow a motorbike, and do not actually own it.

The second point I might add is that the Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) is proposing what it is fair enough to say is quite a significant increase for owners of larger motorbikes, with a proposed levy increasing by about $500, to $781. As I said yesterday at my press conference, it is worth remembering that on the advice we have had from ACC, a full cost recovery levy for motorcycle-only accidents is $2,215 and if we take into consideration accidents where a car is involved, the levy should increase to $3,770. Yes, it is a big increase, but other New Zealanders should know they are already substantially cross-subsidising motorbike riders.


Got the first one. Now that was funny. Might have something to do with the Maori Party. But for the life of me I can not see the puch line for the second one. I'd say he needs a new comedy writer. Watcha think??


Skyryder

If you read my posts in other threads you will know what I think on this one. Some increase is justified, but also sporting injuries should not be covered by ACC and they should be mindful of specialists and sub contractors to ACC hiking their charges. It is a curiosity that when Labour is in power the gravy trains really flow at a fast pace. Time to rein it all in.

[The Pastor]

sorry .. i dont know who Rob Muldoon was .. was he an arrogant fat loudmouth douchebag with the fashion sense of a blind downs syndrome sufferer?

you must be related then

[Robert Taylor]

Translation: socialist history lecturers in universities...

Give up Mr D! We are dealing with people whos divine right is to assert that their leftist leanings is the only system that is ''correct''
They just cannot get their minds around that there can be a balance between capitalism and social compassion, but social compassion without vote buying handouts.
The National Government is by no means perfect but its a pleasure to wake up everyday and realise that we no longer have an evil bitch running the country. And where did she and her arrogant finance minister get us...massively increased costs through a levy anything that moves mentality and nothing left in the kitty.

[Skyryder]

If you read my posts in other threads you will know what I think on this one. Some increase is justified, but also sporting injuries should not be covered by ACC and they should be mindful of specialists and sub contractors to ACC hiking their charges. It is a curiosity that when Labour is in power the gravy trains really flow at a fast pace. Time to rein it all

No increased is justified if based on a lie and the ACC levy increase is based on that. There is plenty of evidence of this outside of the political arena,

http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/ins.../?c_id=1502776

There is also the Price Waterhouse report not to mention KB's very own You tube vid.


but the only evidence that the kitty is bare is based on an accounting procedure and the lies emanting from Key, Smith, and that Buisness Roundtable member John Judge.

And you query my reading of threads. Jeeez RT there's a whole section on Key and Smiths bullshit. Its called the ACC Campaign.


Skyryder

[MisterD]

If you actually went to the trouble of just pressing a few button on your keyboard and actually looked at the origins of liberalism you would not make so many silly statements on this issue. John Locke is considered the founder on the liberal theories. I doubt if many would see this man in the context that you describe but considering your KB name I suppose you can not help if I consider your posts a D=fail.

We're not talking about origins, we're talking about later re-interpretations and the fact that lefty big-state, punish the successful policy has f-all to do with Liberalism.

[Skyryder]

We're not talking about origins, we're talking about later re-interpretations and the fact that lefty big-state, punish the successful policy has f-all to do with Liberalism.

Not much point in debating about something you have no knowledge on. You claimed Liberalism was one thing when it's something else.

I'm going to take RT's advice and give up.

Skyryder