It's time...
What I was actually saying is that your idea that drilling for oil has removed the layer insulating the surface from geothermal heat and thereby warmed the Earth is a complete non-starter.Originally Posted by mashman
So it could be a combination of everything that we're doing, everything being the limit of what one can imagine? Can i have my money back please
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I didn't say "the layer", however i did mean "a layer". Given that oil comes out of the ground already hotter than the boiling point of water, i would have thought that it would have been more than plausible. I guess that's something i'll just have to file in the unsolved pile (even if you did say "Yes, in a thousand odd years")... every little helps eh
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Errr how?
To do so China - with an increasing demand (not population), would have to decrease its emission's to do so. We are not talking about a country like the US where everyone had everything and now they have to cut back. China is the opposite.
A population of billions suddenly has found itself with money to buy stuff it wants. A previously completely communist share-it-around country, now has the ability for its individuals to consume what they want. They are only just starting now to build a momentum of consumerism.
And yet to get a carbon credit (and suck the money out as you claim) they would have to break this trend of billions of people. I'm sorry but HOW?
See the key think about an ETS would be the E. If you keep emmitting the same (or in china's case MORE) how can you gain from an ETS.
I would claim countries like Sweeden and Norway stand more chance of claiming ETS credits that China. If its lucky China might cut even
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China will go from strength to strength here. The scarier part is where this is taking the still communist regime and its military goals.
An entirely different topic, but extremely well funded... by nations that are now supplying them with vast amounts of money.
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Nope, you've still missed it. You're not even arguing the same point, and you've misinterpreted my post completely. China will one of the beneficiaries of the ETS, not a carbon trader.
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Here's one for ya. I know a guy who claims the earth is cooling on the basis that the hot pools up on Welcome flat are now one degree cooler.
The fact that this was casued by the earthquack down in fiordland just a few month back seems not to have been noticed.
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I'm guessing you mean the $10 billion fund to be set up by Western countries to help third world nations move to cleaner technologies.
Probably the hardest issue to accept about governments moving to reduce green-house gases is that China and India get a free pass. So it's true that you and I will pay while some other nations continue to pollute.
It ain't logical - but it makes a kind of sense. Chinese and Indian people want cars and flatscreen TVs too and why shouldn't they? We've had 150 years of fun pouring pollution into the air and water, they want a chance to catch up. Hard to deny them that chance.
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Are you a complete tosser - or do you just come across that way?
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